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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2017, 01:21:17 PM »
I found some Butcher paper on Amazon.com.  It came in 150' rolls...ordered some to try.  I've been wanting to try it for a long time, but couldn't find it in small rolls.  Whilst I was looking at the bbq thermometers, they suggested Butcher paper.  I'll be interested to see how it works.

Now I'll stop milking this dead horse because it probably won't change anyone's mind about.

I bought this same thing from Amazon some time back. It works very well. 150' will last for a while! :)
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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2017, 01:45:18 PM »
I found some Butcher paper on Amazon.com.  It came in 150' rolls...ordered some to try.  I've been wanting to try it for a long time, but couldn't find it in small rolls.  Whilst I was looking at the bbq thermometers, they suggested Butcher paper.  I'll be interested to see how it works.

Now I'll stop milking this dead horse because it probably won't change anyone's mind about.

I bought this same thing from Amazon some time back. It works very well. 150' will last for a while! :)

I think you get a better exterior finish ( bark) when you use butcher paper vs foil. I can think of a few reasons why that may be.... Only know I prefer the finished product better. ;)
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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2017, 01:52:04 PM »
But foil hats are still ok right? :P
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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2017, 02:29:21 PM »
So. Stop covering the drip pans on our pellet grills, Ive done that since I got one. I also line the bottom of the SRG Aluminum tub with Foil.  It gets to a point where I think some of this is taken too far. Heck I was taught in Boy Scouts how to make a Zip Pack with Aluminum foil with our hamburger, potatoes and carrots something that I still do today. And it turns out delicious every time.  Last week I was in Florida went to a local market on Saturday where they where grilling quartered chickens and sausage on a pit that was covered with expanded metal that it appeared they had been using for years and it didn't bother me at all as I shared a quartered Chicken with my wife. I even told her that the expanded metal was bad for us which she responded that it wasn't any worse than the Styrofoam container they served it to us on. And yes it was delicious.  Lets not forget that we have been told that the air we breath, the water we drink and most of the food we consume has some negative effect on our bodies and yet we still live. How can this be?? ??? ???
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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2017, 02:47:40 PM »
So. Stop covering the drip pans on our pellet grills, Ive done that since I got one. I also line the bottom of the SRG Aluminum tub with Foil.  It gets to a point where I think some of this is taken too far. Heck I was taught in Boy Scouts how to make a Zip Pack with Aluminum foil with our hamburger, potatoes and carrots something that I still do today. And it turns out delicious every time.  Last week I was in Florida went to a local market on Saturday where they where grilling quartered chickens and sausage on a pit that was covered with expanded metal that it appeared they had been using for years and it didn't bother me at all as I shared a quartered Chicken with my wife. I even told her that the expanded metal was bad for us which she responded that it wasn't any worse than the Styrofoam container they served it to us on. And yes it was delicious.  Lets not forget that we have been told that the air we breath, the water we drink and most of the food we consume has some negative effect on our bodies and yet we still live. How can this be?? ??? ???

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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2017, 02:58:13 PM »
So. Stop covering the drip pans on our pellet grills, Ive done that since I got one. I also line the bottom of the SRG Aluminum tub with Foil.  It gets to a point where I think some of this is taken too far. Heck I was taught in Boy Scouts how to make a Zip Pack with Aluminum foil with our hamburger, potatoes and carrots something that I still do today. And it turns out delicious every time.  Last week I was in Florida went to a local market on Saturday where they where grilling quartered chickens and sausage on a pit that was covered with expanded metal that it appeared they had been using for years and it didn't bother me at all as I shared a quartered Chicken with my wife. I even told her that the expanded metal was bad for us which she responded that it wasn't any worse than the Styrofoam container they served it to us on. And yes it was delicious.  Lets not forget that we have been told that the air we breath, the water we drink and most of the food we consume has some negative effect on our bodies and yet we still live. How can this be?? ??? ???

This is taking it too far.  The original article is way too alarmist which I think you are heading with this post.  However being too dismissive is also a bad thing.  The human body itself does not use aluminum in the biochemistry and as a result the metal can cause issues biologically.  Using aluminum as a liner which is NOT in contact with food is of no issue or consequence.  Also using aluminum with non acidic food is also of no consequence due to the fact that an oxide coating (thin) is always on the surface of aluminum.  That oxide coating breaks down when in contact with acidic foods.   Thing is though in the different metals available, along with cost considerations, aluminum is one of the most versatile materials we have today.  Personally I still roast large pieces of meat in an aluminum roasting pan, and bake in aluminum cake pans as that is the best material out there for those kind of foods.  However if I am frying, or cooking on the stove, or doing things just for myself I like using and do use cast iron.  Cast iron is a great way to supplement iron in the diet and in certain cases I have heard the use of cast iron helps with people who are iron deficient.
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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2017, 06:13:45 AM »
With all the alarmist news about what is and is not healthy I just try to remember we live in a world where the average lifespan continues to increase, so what we're doing can't be ALL bad.  :thumbup:

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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM »
than most.

But you need to know THIS: YOUR Dr. and all others for that matter receive far LESS training on nutrition than a veterinarian. That is a fact. AND...( this one ought to be a wake up call ;) )How you you think your physician learns which drugs to prescribe for your needs? From the drug company's sales people that call on him. Again FACT....



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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2017, 10:44:19 AM »
I try to listen to as much factual info as possible....and then make a decision based on each situation. Aluminum has been considered a health risk in cooking for quite awhile. But because as Mike has said, there is no health warning on the foil box. Well that would be government issued. I truly do not trust government with my family's or my health. Too many times BIG MONEY has paid off politicians to suppress facts. We will taper off our use of foil. Instead of wrapping a butt it could be placed in a covered pan and placed in a cooler. No more foil pacs tossed on the grill. There are plenty of non-cooking uses that will remain safe. Everyone must decide what is best for them!  :thumbup:

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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2017, 11:21:51 AM »
I try to listen to as much factual info as possible....and then make a decision based on each situation.  Aluminum has been considered a health risk in cooking for quite awhile. But because as Mike has said, there is no health warning on the foil box. Well that would be government issued.  I truly do not trust government with my family's or my health. Too many times BIG MONEY has paid off politicians to suppress facts. We will taper off our use of foil. Instead of wrapping a butt it could be placed in a covered pan and placed in a cooler. No more foil pacs tossed on the grill. There are plenty of non-cooking uses that will remain safe. Everyone must decide what is best for them!  :thumbup:

Agree 90%, will still wrap with foil.





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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2017, 11:42:35 AM »
One of the reasons that I like this site is we ALL care about each other. When someone finds an article like Pam did, she shared it. It's up to the individual to read it or not. Take in the facts and decide what is best for each person. We are all different,  we all have varied needs and likes. But at the end of the day, if you disagree with me, I'll still respect you! It's kinda like what the evening news used to do. Report the facts and let us decide where the dog lies. (No offense brother Bill) :thumbup:

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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2017, 04:58:50 PM »
One of the reasons that I like this site is we ALL care about each other. When someone finds an article like Pam did, she shared it. It's up to the individual to read it or not. Take in the facts and decide what is best for each person. We are all different,  we all have varied needs and likes. But at the end of the day, if you disagree with me, I'll still respect you! It's kinda like what the evening news used to do. Report the facts and let us decide where the dog lies. (No offense brother Bill) :thumbup:

Not at all, Gene, not at all ! ! !  You are correct, we all have different experiences, backgrounds, personal stories, etc.

I remember when the stories about aluminum and Alzheimers (I think) first came out.  People were talking about everything from beer cans to antiperspirant (aluminum chlorhydrate?).  But now the vast majority of those fears have been quieted.

Also, we all realize that this place is very special place; civil and very tolerant of differing opinions. 

Just recently I was on an Indian (MC) forum where a guy, shaped pretty much like a taller version of me, was asking about finding a leather jacket that would fit his frame.  Almost immediately, individuals came out bashing and insulting him about his weight.  Eventually the Mods came in, deleted some of the worst posts, and reminded everyone to slow it down a little. 

But here at LTBBQ, it is understood.

So, here's to you (all of you) my BBQ Buddies ! ! !  (sitting back, enjoying one of three or four daily cigars and sipping on the first of my half dozen or so Bin Ladens - that's right it's scotch . . . two shots and a splash ! )





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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2017, 05:11:47 PM »
Cheers my friend!  8)  If I could, I most certainly would tip one (rye) in your direction! :thumbup:

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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2017, 05:20:34 PM »
After reading this thread l got scared & stocked up at Sams with 9 big rolls HD Alcoa foil. Heck I'm worried it will either get banned or the price go up

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Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2017, 05:29:17 PM »
I buy the huge rolls myself.. .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
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