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Title: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Pam Gould on March 05, 2017, 08:46:59 AM
interestign article about why to stop using aluminum foi
http://www.grazeme.com/doctors-warn-if-you-use-aluminum-foil-stop-it-right-now-and-this-is-the-reason-why/
what do you think?   .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: LarryO1947 on March 05, 2017, 08:57:42 AM
Wow....how ironic. I was just looking for butcher paper. Now I know I am getting a roll. Thx for sharing, Pam.  :)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: HighOnSmoke on March 05, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
Well I am not going to stop using it. It hasn't been proven that it causes any diseases yet.  Check out this article from Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/cooking-with-aluminum-foil-puts-you-at-risk-for-alzheimers/

Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 05, 2017, 09:53:19 AM
There have been a good number of medical studies, and articles showing the negative effects of aluminum in our food stream. (Here are just a couple:  http://universityhealthnews.com/daily/memory/aluminum-linked-to-alzheimers-disease/   and   http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/concerned-about-aluminum-dangers/  ) And - full disclosure - I have had some "personal experience" with metals, and some of the health effects.

So, clearly I may be over-sensitive to this issue. But, I think that if you are using aluminum in your cooking - it would be in your best interest to make certain it is anodized, and inspect it regularly for scratches that would negate the anodizing. But, let me share with you some what I can grasp about the significance of ingesting aluminum or other metals in non-nutritional amounts.

When you think about the pragmatics of this potential issue - think of it this way: Our bodies are electrically activated organic machines. Electrically powered equipment is sensitive to changes in the conductivity - or resistance of the electrical currents needed to power them. More specifically - the brain is acutely sensitive to these potential changes in conductivity/resistance to micro-currents that are used in our synaptic response. When you have a conscious - or unconscious thought...your brain sends a "spark" or micro-current to specific neuronal connections, creating a "synaptic response". If you alter the natural level of conductance- then you can have neurological issues. Mine were described as a "slow acting stroke". The concern was that I had a clot that was able to move slowly thru the brain..but that found to not be the case. It was metal "poisoning". Too much ingestion of any metals can create this and other problems. SO, how much is "too-much"? I have no idea. But after coming to the understanding of HOW the body's electrical system and the brain interface - without becoming paranoid on the subject, I chose to just pay attention to the issue better. But, I do not agree with the "percentage" of adsorption as a baseline for determine safe levels, or insignificant levels. Every person's chemistry differs a little.

But I never wrap any food in aluminum foil anymore  then cook it. ;) ;D But - I am not going to preach about this, it is my personal decision, and not a criticism of anyone else's if you feel differently. It is a personal experience that I will not repeat, but I will suggest that you look at a number of resources before you make your own decisions.
One note: I no longer rely on Snopes, Mike...I found that they receive money from George Soros, and that made me feel that the information could be influenced to support a "position" of some kind. And flatly - ANY resource needs to be inspected to find out WHO pays for the information to be published. "Agendas" are just part of the human condition.  I just don't think any ONE resource is enough to support making decisions that can impact our health.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Pam Gould on March 05, 2017, 10:11:24 AM
just sayin..this is getting more interesting all the time.  I only foil food after it's been cooked..  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: smokeasaurus on March 05, 2017, 10:31:59 AM
Still gonna use it. HD foil is a Quer's best friend  :thumbup:
Title: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Pappymn on March 05, 2017, 10:37:18 AM
Of all the things that will take me out, foil ain't high on my list. :)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: smokeasaurus on March 05, 2017, 10:39:17 AM
Of all the things that will take me out, foil ain't high on my list. :)

Rumour has it Tee has sent out "Big Freddie" on ya  :D :D
Title: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Pappymn on March 05, 2017, 11:00:01 AM
Of all the things that will take me out, foil ain't high on my list. :)

Rumour has it Tee has sent out "Big Freddie" on ya  :D :D
Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep my head on a swivel
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 05, 2017, 11:50:25 AM
Of all the things that will take me out, foil ain't high on my list. :)

Rumour has it Tee has sent out "Big Freddie" on ya  :D :D
Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep my head on a swivel

 :D :D :D

Nah...just the guys in the white jackets that have one that buttons up the back for Pappy! :D :D :D

Seriously - this is merely ONE of a thousand things that we all just ought to be aware of and decide for ourselves what is in our own best interests. We all learn from one another, and experiences are shared merely to add to the volume of information available. Nothing more, or less.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: HighOnSmoke on March 05, 2017, 12:49:15 PM
Oh I agree Tim that foil may have it's harmful effects, but so do most everything we do use. So until they start putting warning signs on foil boxes I will continue to use it sparingly. I only use it to wrap butts, ribs and brisket. As Smoke said, a Quer's best friend. I also agree somewhat about Snopes. Didn't know Soros had anything to do with them. But I am not going to turn this into a discussion about Soros and his doings.  ;)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Tailgating is my game on March 05, 2017, 04:21:04 PM
How about this guy

http://inhabitat.com/man-covers-his-entire-house-with-foil-is-it-a-work-of-art/


No wonder Toms grills are so clean ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: DWard51 on March 05, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
Yeah, and I seem to remember an attempt to ban all outdoor grilling, smoking, and bbq back in the 80's.  Some yahoo decided that wood smoke caused cancer. 

The problem with trying to link a commonly used item to anything is it's easy to make an assumption from the findings that actually should be attributed to some other factor. 
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Subvet on March 05, 2017, 06:34:51 PM
Just remember, being alive is dangerous to your health. At my age not gonna sweat it.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Jaxon on March 05, 2017, 07:55:02 PM



I SNOPE a lot of things that are floated on the interweb.

I had done the cut and copy thing...was ready to paste when I saw H O S beat me to it.  He is so cool...
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 05, 2017, 09:55:05 PM
Well - as I said earlier...I have had first hand experience with the cumulative effects of metals poisoning. Each one can decide what they want to do of course.

But, allow me to remind you of this: In the 1950's medical Dr's would often prescribe smoking for patients to calm their nerves. :D :D :D :D And - at that time there were various studies which already said smoking was bad for your health. Notice how long it took to get a consensus on that from the medical community? I am not anti-Dr. in fact, many of them are my friends as well as referral sources for our medical equipment business. So, I get some insight as to medicine is practiced - from a slightly different angle than most.

But you need to know THIS: YOUR Dr. and all others for that matter receive far LESS training on nutrition than a veterinarian. That is a fact. AND...( this one ought to be a wake up call ;) )How you you think your physician learns which drugs to prescribe for your needs? From the drug company's sales people that call on him. Again FACT....

Folks, it is a "buyer beware" world we live in. The more you know, the less you should fear or be paranoid about.  That is all I am saying.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: stalag on March 05, 2017, 10:35:57 PM
Well - as I said earlier...I have had first hand experience with the cumulative effects of metals poisoning. Each one can decide what they want to do of course.

But, allow me to remind you of this: In the 1950's medical Dr's would often prescribe smoking for patients to calm their nerves. :D :D :D :D And - at that time there were various studies which already said smoking was bad for your health. Notice how long it took to get a consensus on that from the medical community? I am not anti-Dr. in fact, many of them are my friends as well as referral sources for our medical equipment business. So, I get some insight as to medicine is practiced - from a slightly different angle than most.

But you need to know THIS: YOUR Dr. and all others for that matter receive far LESS training on nutrition than a veterinarian. That is a fact. AND...( this one ought to be a wake up call ;) )How you you think your physician learns which drugs to prescribe for your needs? From the drug company's sales people that call on him. Again FACT....

Folks, it is a "buyer beware" world we live in. The more you know, the less you should fear or be paranoid about.  That is all I am saying.

I myself do not need to know a "fact checker".  Being a PhD chemist, aluminum decidedly is NOT a heavy metal.  However aluminum does react in the body in ways that is not good.  As long as the oxide coating is not disturbed in an aluminum pan, it is perfectly safe to cook with as long as the food is not acidic.  It is recommended by me that one consider using an iron pan or other pan that is less susceptible to acid attack.  Ceramic coated pans are fine as the coating is so hard and due to the oxide in ceramic is mostly inert to anything cooking wise you throw at it.  Enamel is fine as well.  Stainless steel pans are also fine.  Many females like aluminum because it is of light weight.  But ease of handling needs to be balanced with a knowledge of the materials one uses in cooking.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 05, 2017, 11:22:06 PM
Yes Stalag...I agree - that is why anodized is fine with me ( given that care is taken to not damage the micro-thin anodized surface layer )...but this discussion is targeting the use of aluminum foil. When we combine heat with acidic foods....it is not worth that risk for me. But everyone has their preferences, and we respect that.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: DWard51 on March 05, 2017, 11:48:55 PM
Also let's not forget that dihydrogen monoxide (also listed as DHMO sometimes), is one of the deadliest compounds on earth and its is so widespread that testing will reveal high concentration levels of DHMO can be found in pretty much every home in North America!!!!!!

Dihydrogen Monoxide Facts

-   Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid.
-   Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters.
-   The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.
-    is the major component of acid rain.
-    contributes to the Greenhouse Effect.
-    may cause severe burns.
-    can be fatal if inhaled
-    contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
-    accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
-    may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
-    has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions! Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. In the midwest alone DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

-    as an industrial solvent and coolant.
-    in nuclear power plants.
-    in the production of styrofoam.
-    as a fire retardant.
-    in many forms of cruel animal research.
-    in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
-    as an additive in certain junk-foods and other food products.
-    in nearly every soda currently in production
-    in school lunches and at sporting events!

Yeah, I know..... I just could not resist this one

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Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 05, 2017, 11:56:38 PM
 :D :D :D

That is a good one! ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: stalag on March 06, 2017, 02:28:58 AM
Yes Stalag...I agree - that is why anodized is fine with me ( given that care is taken to not damage the micro-thin anodized surface layer )...but this discussion is targeting the use of aluminum foil. When we combine heat with acidic foods....it is not worth that risk for me. But everyone has their preferences, and we respect that.

The same principle for pans also applies to foil.  Same material, same problems.

Oh, and the dihydrogen monoxide thing.....seen it before, still funny!
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: tomcrete1 on March 06, 2017, 06:05:31 AM
Gezzz after all of this, I've lost my appetite  :-X
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Hub on March 06, 2017, 08:06:06 AM
They can have my aluminum foil when they pry my cold, dead hands off the roll  >:(

Nothing else works as well for making a radio wave protective hat  ;)

Hub
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Jaxon on March 06, 2017, 08:26:17 AM
I found some Butcher paper on Amazon.com.  It came in 150' rolls...ordered some to try.  I've been wanting to try it for a long time, but couldn't find it in small rolls.  Whilst I was looking at the bbq thermometers, they suggested Butcher paper.  I'll be interested to see how it works.

Now I'll stop milking this dead horse because it probably won't change anyone's mind about.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: TentHunteR on March 06, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
OH NO!!!!

I just drank some Dihydrogen Monoxide from a cup I made from aluminum foil!!!  ??? 

Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 06, 2017, 09:27:22 AM
OH NO!!!!

I just drank some Dihydrogen Monoxide from a cup I made from aluminum foil!!!  ???

The Aliens called...they have a seat on the spaceship reserved just for YOU. You probably will not like the physical exam tho...... :D :D :D
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Tailgating is my game on March 06, 2017, 09:51:53 AM
than most.

But you need to know THIS: YOUR Dr. and all others for that matter receive far LESS training on nutrition than a veterinarian. That is a fact. AND...( this one ought to be a wake up call ;) )How you you think your physician learns which drugs to prescribe for your needs? From the drug company's sales people that call on him. Again FACT....



This is so true!!!!!
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: stalag on March 06, 2017, 09:57:58 AM
Okay, I will give a good use  (doesn't work) for aluminum foil

One of my uncles owns a house next to a microwave communications tower.  Stan, Steve, and Mike, my cousins, decided to climb the tower.  Steve being a know it all told his brother and cousin to line their underwear with foil to protect their manhood.  They did so and went out to climb the tower.  Steve chickens out, but Mike and Stan were determined.  The police were called, the two boys arrested and hauled to the police station.   After questioning the police were laughing and called the parents to come collect the kids.  Needless to say Stan and Mike were teased over that.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Tailgating is my game on March 06, 2017, 10:23:51 AM
We could go back to Tin foil not the same a aluminum foil but that is not as good & leaves a taste in food. Is it better for you? I don't know


Here are some tips I found    http://www.whistlepighollow.com/2013/06/16/7-ways-to-replace-aluminum-foil-in-your-kitchen/


IMO Like anything else if you can cut out 70 to 90% of its use you can still be better off.   
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: DWard51 on March 06, 2017, 10:24:21 AM
I did find one non-food use for aluminum foil.  Back in the day when I worked the graveyard shift, I ended up putting foil over the windows on the inside.  Perfect darkness for sleeping and it was inexpensive and easy to take down.  Some of the other guys painted their windows, but foil was quicker and reversible.  Our bedroom was on the back of the house and I don't think the neighbors even noticed the "foil" window.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Subvet on March 06, 2017, 01:21:17 PM
I found some Butcher paper on Amazon.com.  It came in 150' rolls...ordered some to try.  I've been wanting to try it for a long time, but couldn't find it in small rolls.  Whilst I was looking at the bbq thermometers, they suggested Butcher paper.  I'll be interested to see how it works.

Now I'll stop milking this dead horse because it probably won't change anyone's mind about.

I bought this same thing from Amazon some time back. It works very well. 150' will last for a while! :)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: teesquare on March 06, 2017, 01:45:18 PM
I found some Butcher paper on Amazon.com.  It came in 150' rolls...ordered some to try.  I've been wanting to try it for a long time, but couldn't find it in small rolls.  Whilst I was looking at the bbq thermometers, they suggested Butcher paper.  I'll be interested to see how it works.

Now I'll stop milking this dead horse because it probably won't change anyone's mind about.

I bought this same thing from Amazon some time back. It works very well. 150' will last for a while! :)

I think you get a better exterior finish ( bark) when you use butcher paper vs foil. I can think of a few reasons why that may be.... Only know I prefer the finished product better. ;)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: muebe on March 06, 2017, 01:52:04 PM
But foil hats are still ok right? :P
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: tomcrete1 on March 06, 2017, 02:29:21 PM
So. Stop covering the drip pans on our pellet grills, Ive done that since I got one. I also line the bottom of the SRG Aluminum tub with Foil.  It gets to a point where I think some of this is taken too far. Heck I was taught in Boy Scouts how to make a Zip Pack with Aluminum foil with our hamburger, potatoes and carrots something that I still do today. And it turns out delicious every time.  Last week I was in Florida went to a local market on Saturday where they where grilling quartered chickens and sausage on a pit that was covered with expanded metal that it appeared they had been using for years and it didn't bother me at all as I shared a quartered Chicken with my wife. I even told her that the expanded metal was bad for us which she responded that it wasn't any worse than the Styrofoam container they served it to us on. And yes it was delicious.  Lets not forget that we have been told that the air we breath, the water we drink and most of the food we consume has some negative effect on our bodies and yet we still live. How can this be?? ??? ???
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Tailgating is my game on March 06, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
So. Stop covering the drip pans on our pellet grills, Ive done that since I got one. I also line the bottom of the SRG Aluminum tub with Foil.  It gets to a point where I think some of this is taken too far. Heck I was taught in Boy Scouts how to make a Zip Pack with Aluminum foil with our hamburger, potatoes and carrots something that I still do today. And it turns out delicious every time.  Last week I was in Florida went to a local market on Saturday where they where grilling quartered chickens and sausage on a pit that was covered with expanded metal that it appeared they had been using for years and it didn't bother me at all as I shared a quartered Chicken with my wife. I even told her that the expanded metal was bad for us which she responded that it wasn't any worse than the Styrofoam container they served it to us on. And yes it was delicious.  Lets not forget that we have been told that the air we breath, the water we drink and most of the food we consume has some negative effect on our bodies and yet we still live. How can this be?? ??? ???

because of the whiskey we drink ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: stalag on March 06, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
So. Stop covering the drip pans on our pellet grills, Ive done that since I got one. I also line the bottom of the SRG Aluminum tub with Foil.  It gets to a point where I think some of this is taken too far. Heck I was taught in Boy Scouts how to make a Zip Pack with Aluminum foil with our hamburger, potatoes and carrots something that I still do today. And it turns out delicious every time.  Last week I was in Florida went to a local market on Saturday where they where grilling quartered chickens and sausage on a pit that was covered with expanded metal that it appeared they had been using for years and it didn't bother me at all as I shared a quartered Chicken with my wife. I even told her that the expanded metal was bad for us which she responded that it wasn't any worse than the Styrofoam container they served it to us on. And yes it was delicious.  Lets not forget that we have been told that the air we breath, the water we drink and most of the food we consume has some negative effect on our bodies and yet we still live. How can this be?? ??? ???

This is taking it too far.  The original article is way too alarmist which I think you are heading with this post.  However being too dismissive is also a bad thing.  The human body itself does not use aluminum in the biochemistry and as a result the metal can cause issues biologically.  Using aluminum as a liner which is NOT in contact with food is of no issue or consequence.  Also using aluminum with non acidic food is also of no consequence due to the fact that an oxide coating (thin) is always on the surface of aluminum.  That oxide coating breaks down when in contact with acidic foods.   Thing is though in the different metals available, along with cost considerations, aluminum is one of the most versatile materials we have today.  Personally I still roast large pieces of meat in an aluminum roasting pan, and bake in aluminum cake pans as that is the best material out there for those kind of foods.  However if I am frying, or cooking on the stove, or doing things just for myself I like using and do use cast iron.  Cast iron is a great way to supplement iron in the diet and in certain cases I have heard the use of cast iron helps with people who are iron deficient.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: abcbarbecue on March 09, 2017, 06:13:45 AM
With all the alarmist news about what is and is not healthy I just try to remember we live in a world where the average lifespan continues to increase, so what we're doing can't be ALL bad.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: akruckus on March 09, 2017, 07:57:53 AM
than most.

But you need to know THIS: YOUR Dr. and all others for that matter receive far LESS training on nutrition than a veterinarian. That is a fact. AND...( this one ought to be a wake up call ;) )How you you think your physician learns which drugs to prescribe for your needs? From the drug company's sales people that call on him. Again FACT....



This is so true!!!!!

Very very true. 

If anyone watched "The Knick" (cinemax or showtime, I forget), the main character in season 1 became addicted to cocaine (at the time used as a pain reliever). To help him get off the cocaine at the rehab center, a drug company Bayer released a "non addictive" drug called heroin.... 
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: hikerman on March 09, 2017, 10:44:19 AM
I try to listen to as much factual info as possible....and then make a decision based on each situation. Aluminum has been considered a health risk in cooking for quite awhile. But because as Mike has said, there is no health warning on the foil box. Well that would be government issued. I truly do not trust government with my family's or my health. Too many times BIG MONEY has paid off politicians to suppress facts. We will taper off our use of foil. Instead of wrapping a butt it could be placed in a covered pan and placed in a cooler. No more foil pacs tossed on the grill. There are plenty of non-cooking uses that will remain safe. Everyone must decide what is best for them!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Big Dawg on March 09, 2017, 11:21:51 AM
I try to listen to as much factual info as possible....and then make a decision based on each situation.  Aluminum has been considered a health risk in cooking for quite awhile. But because as Mike has said, there is no health warning on the foil box. Well that would be government issued.  I truly do not trust government with my family's or my health. Too many times BIG MONEY has paid off politicians to suppress facts. We will taper off our use of foil. Instead of wrapping a butt it could be placed in a covered pan and placed in a cooler. No more foil pacs tossed on the grill. There are plenty of non-cooking uses that will remain safe. Everyone must decide what is best for them!  :thumbup:

Agree 90%, will still wrap with foil.





BD
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: hikerman on March 09, 2017, 11:42:35 AM
One of the reasons that I like this site is we ALL care about each other. When someone finds an article like Pam did, she shared it. It's up to the individual to read it or not. Take in the facts and decide what is best for each person. We are all different,  we all have varied needs and likes. But at the end of the day, if you disagree with me, I'll still respect you! It's kinda like what the evening news used to do. Report the facts and let us decide where the dog lies. (No offense brother Bill) :thumbup:
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Big Dawg on March 09, 2017, 04:58:50 PM
One of the reasons that I like this site is we ALL care about each other. When someone finds an article like Pam did, she shared it. It's up to the individual to read it or not. Take in the facts and decide what is best for each person. We are all different,  we all have varied needs and likes. But at the end of the day, if you disagree with me, I'll still respect you! It's kinda like what the evening news used to do. Report the facts and let us decide where the dog lies. (No offense brother Bill) :thumbup:

Not at all, Gene, not at all ! ! !  You are correct, we all have different experiences, backgrounds, personal stories, etc.

I remember when the stories about aluminum and Alzheimers (I think) first came out.  People were talking about everything from beer cans to antiperspirant (aluminum chlorhydrate?).  But now the vast majority of those fears have been quieted.

Also, we all realize that this place is very special place; civil and very tolerant of differing opinions. 

Just recently I was on an Indian (MC) forum where a guy, shaped pretty much like a taller version of me, was asking about finding a leather jacket that would fit his frame.  Almost immediately, individuals came out bashing and insulting him about his weight.  Eventually the Mods came in, deleted some of the worst posts, and reminded everyone to slow it down a little. 

But here at LTBBQ, it is understood.

So, here's to you (all of you) my BBQ Buddies ! ! !  (sitting back, enjoying one of three or four daily cigars and sipping on the first of my half dozen or so Bin Ladens - that's right it's scotch . . . two shots and a splash ! )





BD
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: hikerman on March 09, 2017, 05:11:47 PM
Cheers my friend!  8)  If I could, I most certainly would tip one (rye) in your direction! :thumbup:
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: LostArrow on March 09, 2017, 05:20:34 PM
After reading this thread l got scared & stocked up at Sams with 9 big rolls HD Alcoa foil. Heck I'm worried it will either get banned or the price go up

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Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Pam Gould on March 09, 2017, 05:29:17 PM
I buy the huge rolls myself.. .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Big Dawg on March 09, 2017, 06:24:19 PM
Cheers my friend!  8)  If I could, I most certainly would tip one (rye) in your direction! :thumbup:

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BD
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Kepeli on March 15, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
I haven't cooked on my grill yet and I never use aluminum foil but my memory stinks, explain that!
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Savannahsmoker on March 15, 2017, 08:50:06 PM
After reading this thread l got scared & stocked up at Sams with 9 big rolls HD Alcoa foil. Heck I'm worried it will either get banned or the price go up

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;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: RAD on March 16, 2017, 06:54:44 PM
Cheers my friend!  8)  If I could, I most certainly would tip one (rye) in your direction! :thumbup:

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I hear alcohol is bad for you  ;D
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Savannahsmoker on March 16, 2017, 07:00:18 PM
Cheers my friend!  8)  If I could, I most certainly would tip one (rye) in your direction! :thumbup:

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I hear alcohol is bad for you  ;D

Now alcohol is bad for you also. 
OK stocking up on alcohol also before the run for alcohol starts. ;D
Now where to put all those rolls of foil I purchased?
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: hikerman on March 16, 2017, 08:49:11 PM
Seems like most things we like, are going to or have been determined to be bad for us. :(  But, you pick your battles and take your swings. :thumbup:
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: Big Dawg on March 17, 2017, 10:58:17 AM
Cheers my friend!  8)  If I could, I most certainly would tip one (rye) in your direction! :thumbup:

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BD
I hear alcohol is bad for you  ;D


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Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: DWard51 on March 18, 2017, 03:20:11 PM

Sitting back, enjoying one of three or four daily cigars and sipping on the first of my half dozen or so Bin Ladens - that's right it's scotch . . . two shots and a splash ! )

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Bin Ladens!!! I've got to remember that one
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: TwoPockets on March 21, 2017, 04:30:11 PM
Well I plan to die from "something" I don't want to die from " nothing ". If that something is eating meat cooked, covered in foil and reheated in foil so be it. As a truly great American philosopher said "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I am dead".
Title: Re: We have to stop using aluminum foil
Post by: hikerman on March 21, 2017, 06:15:50 PM
Well I plan to die from "something" I don't want to die from " nothing ". If that something is eating meat cooked, covered in foil and reheated in foil so be it. As a truly great American philosopher said "I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I am dead".

Ken, that "philosopher" was living and dying in 3/4 time. That's a great quote! Certainly one to live by!