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Tips, Tricks & Just Good Advice! => Burn it in the Back Yard with Hub! => Topic started by: Hub on September 12, 2017, 09:30:59 AM

Title: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Hub on September 12, 2017, 09:30:59 AM
Even though it is a bit long and takes an aside here and there, this is one of the best studies I've ever read about cooking a pork butt "low and slow" vs. speeding it up a bit -- actually a difference of only fifty degrees or so for this study.  The results bear out what I've learned about good pork  :o

Faster cooking can still produce wonderful, edible results but to get the absolute best you've got to give it the time and love that only time and love will produce.  I've done butts both ways and I've never had anyone complain.  So, when I've got the time I always go low and slow.  If I don't I kick the temp up a notch and still eat very, very well  ;D

Hub

http://blog2.thermoworks.com/2015/10/pulled-pork-time-temperature-matters/?utm_source=Nl-2017Sep12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Feature&utm_content=inbox&utm_campaign=Sep2017-ThermaQ-DOT-Sale-Ends-Today-cs
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: TMB on September 12, 2017, 09:51:05 AM
I had read this first thing when I got to work.     

Very good read for sure.   Would like to test an Infrared butt from an SRG my way vs a Low and Slow butt   :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: sparky on September 12, 2017, 10:09:23 AM
Great article.  I have always wondered about hot and fast vs low and slow.  It was explained perfectly.  Thanks for sharing hub.
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: mreservices on September 12, 2017, 11:41:15 AM
Thank you for sharing that article.  Very informative.  I do prefer the Low and Slow method for my pork shoulders even on my PBC.  I like to to keep my temps in the 220-240 range and have been very happy with the results.  Thanks again!!
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: smokeasaurus on September 12, 2017, 12:07:01 PM
I know "power smokin" is the new rage, but I am in the lo and slo camp. Just more exposure to lo heat and smoke over time that does the trick for me.
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Roget on September 12, 2017, 02:33:32 PM
I've done quite a few butts "lo & slo",  just a couple at the higher temps.
No complaints with the butts I cooked faster, but I just felt like the ones I did slower had more "depth' to the flavor. (if that term makes any sense)
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Old Dave on September 12, 2017, 03:06:18 PM
Fwiw, and something to consider::

The FSIS/USDA recommends that the lowest safe temperature to use for this type of cooking is 250-300 degrees. You can find this data in their publication "Grilling and Food Safety"

Safe Smoking
Smoking is cooking food indirectly in the presence of a  re. It can be done in a covered grill with a pan of water placed beneath the meat or poultry. Meats can also be smoked in a smoker — an outdoor cooker especially designed for smoking foods.
Smoking is done much more slowly than grilling, and as a result, the meat is tender and takes on a natural smoke  avoring. The temperature in the smoker should be maintained at 250 to 300°F (121 to 149°C) for safety.
Use a food thermometer to be sure the food has reached a safe internal temperature.

https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/wcm/connect/d468f3d9-fb6c-4109-88d7-2931f7132098/Barbecue_Food_Safety.pdf?MOD=AJPERES
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Big Dawg on September 12, 2017, 06:58:55 PM
Thanks for the article, Hub. 

I've always been a low/slow guy for both Butts and Briskets.  Since I'm not an early riser, I'm always cooking them overnight and time is not an issue for me.

When I was competing, I met a couple of teams that went hot/fast.  In fact one team didn't start putting their Kamado Joes together until 3:30-4:00 in the morning ! ! !




BD
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: ACW3 on September 13, 2017, 09:39:48 AM
Great article, Hub!!  Thanks for posting.

Art
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Michigan0626 on April 08, 2018, 06:26:59 AM
That was an excellent article. One of the comments left behind was equally as good. So if a stall is around 160 give or take, would you use 165 or 170 as being past the stall?  Then with MAK's programmable pit boss, maybe have it go at 300 to an IT of 165-170 and then drop it to 200-225 to extend the breakdown process. Best of both worlds.

Like searing steaks. A lot of people love the hash marks, but any true steak lover knows a complete deep brown crust over the entire steak creates the most flavor.
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: teesquare on April 08, 2018, 07:49:25 AM
Another good one Hub!
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Jaxon on April 08, 2018, 08:03:06 AM
Fwiw, and something to consider::

The FSIS/USDA recommends that the lowest safe temperature to use for this type of cooking is 250-300 degrees. You can find this data in their publication "Grilling and Food Safety"

Safe Smoking
Smoking is cooking food indirectly in the presence of a fire. It can be done in a covered grill with a pan of water placed beneath the meat or poultry. Meats can also be smoked in a smoker — an outdoor cooker especially designed for smoking foods.
Smoking is done much more slowly than grilling, and as a result, the meat is tender and takes on a natural smoke  avoring. The temperature in the smoker should be maintained at 250 to 300°F (121 to 149°C) for safety.


As I read the article, I was wondering about cooking at 250 or 275.  Seems like 250 would reduce cook time yet break down the fat, etc. 
I'm just a backyard jack so I have questions like that.
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: smokeasaurus on April 08, 2018, 09:10:29 AM
275 is perfect for briskets and butts and spare ribs. Everything will render and be just as good as cooking at 225.  You also get to eat sooner!!  :)
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Jaxon on April 08, 2018, 07:11:38 PM
Fwiw, and something to consider::

The FSIS/USDA recommends that the lowest safe temperature to use for this type of cooking is 250-300 degrees. You can find this data in their publication "Grilling and Food Safety"

Safe Smoking
Smoking is cooking food indirectly in the presence of a fire. It can be done in a covered grill with a pan of water placed beneath the meat or poultry. Meats can also be smoked in a smoker — an outdoor cooker especially designed for smoking foods.
Smoking is done much more slowly than grilling, and as a result, the meat is tender and takes on a natural smoke  avoring. The temperature in the smoker should be maintained at 250 to 300°F (121 to 149°C) for safety.


As I read the article, I was wondering about cooking at 250 or 275.  Seems like 250 would reduce cook time yet break down the fat, etc. 
I'm just a backyard jack so I have questions like that.
Title: Re: Fantastic Article on Pork Butt Cooking
Post by: Tailgating is my game on April 08, 2018, 08:50:06 PM
I had read this first thing when I got to work.     

Very good read for sure.   Would like to test an Infrared butt from an SRG my way vs a Low and Slow butt   :D :D :D :D :D
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