Let's Talk BBQ
General => General Discussion & Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: CDN Smoker on December 15, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
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Sorry T but you did it again, lol
From "T"
So - how about: Let's Talk Outdoor Cooking - BBQ and more!
THoughts?
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I hate change.... bah humbug. ;)
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IF tee changes the name how about Let's Talk BBQ and Other Cooking Styles.
Nothing too drastic of a change and I agree with an earlier post we are all experienced BBQ'ers
and I may dabble a bit with stove cooking I prefer and my family prefers grilled and BBQ food.
My 2 cents worth!
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Sorry T but you did it again, lol
From "T"
So - how about: Let's Talk Outdoor Cooking - BBQ and more!
THoughts?
crap….Thanks CDN! you deserve a cookie!
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I hate change.... bah humbug. ;)
I agree. I like letstalkbbq
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I think that we should call it:
BBQ and Cooking with Heat
Ed
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I hate change.... bah humbug. ;)
I agree. I like letstalkbbq
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My Nickel, ( Canada does not use penny's anymore).
First and foremost there are not many smokers where I live but is is growing. I can cook in a kitchen so I won't starve. I like to try new things. My choice of cooking style right now is BBQ. I have much to learn.
The name "Lets Talk BBQ and More" says it all in my mind. ;D
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If it aint broke, dont fix it. Lets Talk BBQ and more pretty much sums it all up.
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Let me explain the reason behind the potential name change.
We are working on an additional new site - that is video focused. But - it will need to refer to a place for folks with questions and comments. That site will be called
Outdoor Cooking Digest. It is a work in progress right now.
When folks think about Outdoor Cooking - there are thousands of potential things that come to mind. Because of where we are - that is more often than not - called "BBQ". But, please recognize that BBQ is a part of Outdoor Cooking. This name is designed to not exclude anyone. Many folks will not think of BBQ in the broad sense that you or I might….
So - Outdoor Cooking Digest, needs a companion site for article and recipe storage, as well as Q and A about the videos, in threads hosted here.
But - here is the best part…….
The videos will be generated by YOU. There are some members here that already like to make videos, and - perhaps they will want to contribute, and help with tips for others. We will have someone to help you when using our equipment as well.We have purchased 2 complete camera systems - that will be shipped around. The are like the Go Pro System - but with some interesting differences. We can change the angle of view on these cameras in the field - without sending them in to a factory authorized shop. There is a chest harness and camera bracket - so that the "focus is on the food". In other words - no chef's coats allowed. No professionals. ( We may have "guest" cooks occasionally - later) This is a peer-to-peer process. Folks that love to cook - sharing with others. Family recipes. New ideas. Maybe something innovative that you saw or figured out…you name it!
Maybe this will explain my reason for the needed name change. There needs to be a cohesive name so that the 2 sites can best support each other in the search engines and with people looking for similar content. And - it will not affect any of your settings, you will still be able to type in "LetsTalkBBQ" in your browser and come here. The two sites will interface - but still be separate.
More later…. ;)
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I hate change.... bah humbug. ;)
I agree. I like letstalkbbq
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x3..don't make me change..ppuulllllease .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི
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PLEASE READ the entirety of my post before you make an interpretation of what I am talking about. This will ADD to the knowledge, give us MORE interactive video based fun stuff….
Cme on folks, I know we all have a birthday every year - but we can still add to our skill sets and have fun! :D (This change WILL NOT AFEECT HOW YOU COME TO LTBBQ……..)
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OK Tee. Since Outdoor Cooking digest will be a companion site go with:
Lets Talk BBQ and Outdoor Cooking
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I am a member of Cooks Illustrated and really enjoy their how to videos. I am thinking that this is the direction T is looking to go with this site and can accept and agree with that. :)
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OK Tee. Since Outdoor Cooking digest will be a companion site go with:
Lets Talk BBQ and Outdoor Cooking
That may work….Or : Lets Talk Outdoor Cooking and BBQ.
BBQ is a "sub-set" of Outdoor Cooking. BBQ is part of Outdoor Cooking.
This is merely a tool to help others find us as we already include charcuterie, smoking, grilling and several categories under our "BBQ umbrella" - again - the original URL of www.LetsTalkBBQ.com will take you to our index page here. It will not cause anyone that is currently a member any inconvenience. You will not have to change ANYTHING on your end.I am only trying to continue making this site bigger and better - as well as finish and put on-line something that will give each one of us MORE of the stuff we like.
So - I am going to ask all of you to trust me on this.
After all….we made LTBBQ a great place - right? Same principles…and same "feel" ;)
It wil have the kind of video that is short, sweet - and to the point. Again - we will assist in helping YOU make these of your favorites that you wish to share with others. We will be editing, adding effects, etc. You do no have to use Outdoor Cooking. But I will bet you will…because it will be a fun way to exchange more than just ideas and recipes in a text format as we do here, with still photos.
Video is just fun kids!
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One more thing I noticed is input. If you look at the member posts we need to find away for more folks to get involved.
We have over 500+ members but a lot of members are not getting involved. Maybe this new direction will help these folks to feel comfortable in posting some of their cooks. ;D
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In my book, BBQ is outdoor cooking, everything else is second fiddle.
Digging my heels in the sand on this one Tee ;) :)
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One more thing I noticed is input. If you look at the member posts we need to find away for more folks to get involved.
We have over 500+ members but a lot of members are not getting involved. Maybe this new direction will help these folks to feel comfortable in posting some of their cooks. ;D
YOU are 100% correct! And - it will add another dimension of fun that anyone can participate in! Why not try it?
In my book, BBQ is outdoor cooking, everything else is second fiddle.
Digging my heels in the sand on this one Tee ;) :)
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Well - if I think only about how I see the world of BBQ and Outdoor Cooking - I agree with you. And many here will feel the same way. But, like they use dot say int he movies "this is bigger than the both of us". Likewise, Outdoor Cooking is bigger than just BBQ. Outdoor Cooking includes BBQ but, can be other things too.
In other words - we are expanding what we call BBQ, without confusing folks less familiar with the broad and general way we think about BBQ. Heck - for most of us, anything cooked outdoors *IS* BBQ. That is not the watt he world sees it, nor is it the way you could look up a definition for BBQ - but, it has just been our colloquial vernacular.
T
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In my book, BBQ is outdoor cooking, everything else is second fiddle.
Digging my heels in the sand on this one Tee ;) :)
I kinda agree with Smoke, I like the site the way it is. The new site sounds interesting for those that like to do video and like watching them. I personally don't care for videos, I suppose it's an age thing, I just don't have the patience to watch more than 4 minutes of video, I like the still photos. Just my 2 cents worth but I vote for keeping it LetstalkBBQ. Smokin Don
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I hate change.
I'll go with whatever Muebe says, that young man is pretty sharp. ;D
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Yeah, BBQ Brethren never changed to Outdoor Cooking Brethren........ :D
I am done here. You all know how I feel. I can Que and fry cook but I am not a "Cook" or a "Baker" or a "Candlestick Maker" :D
I know what Tee is aiming at and whatever his vision is for the forum I will support it 100 %
If y'all need me I will be in the BBQ section ;) That is where I am comfortable at 8)
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I hate change.
I'll go with whatever Muebe says, that young man is pretty sharp. ;D
??? 8)
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To be honest, I think that the "and more" should be "...and more" in a smaller font (including the ...). I get trying to make it not 100% BBQ driven, but I think that is more how we have evolved as a group and not necessarily anything that is needed to encourage others to join. As much as it pains me, people associate all outdoor cooking (grilling especially) with the term BBQ already.
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To be honest, I think that the "and more" should be "...and more" in a smaller font (including the ...). I get trying to make it not 100% BBQ driven, but I think that is more how we have evolved as a group and not necessarily anything that is needed to encourage others to join. As much as it pains me, people associate all outdoor cooking (grilling especially) with the term BBQ already.
So my preference would be LET'S TALK BBQ ...and more.
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Tim I will admit that I'm usually reluctant to change, but in saying that, life is all about change. I do trust you on this and more, as long as I have a comfy seat in the site you can call it what you wish.....just don't call me late for dinner!
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Ok here is my two cents...
Over the past couple years my cooking has morphed from just standard BBQ fair to Sous Vide, wood fired pizzas, and creating non traditional BBQ recipes using BBQ equipment and techniques.
I can directly contribute these ideas and changes to this site.
We have such a variety of members on here with great cooking skills and recipes. A lot of real people who can relate to the average person with no culinary experience.
This site has been growing and changing. IMHO it offers more than any other BBQ or cooking site out there because it is elastic and dynamic. It's members have controlled the direction by what they contribute.
But it is still a BBQ cooking site at its core.
Let's Talk BBQ Cooking.... outdoors and more!
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Ok here is my two cents...
Over the past couple years my cooking has morphed from just standard BBQ fair to Sous Vide, wood fired pizzas, and creating non traditional BBQ recipes using BBQ equipment and techniques.
I can directly contribute these ideas and changes to this site.
We have such a variety of members on here with great cooking skills and recipes. A lot of real people who can relate to the average person with no culinary experience.
This site has been growing and changing. IMHO it offers more than any other BBQ or cooking site out there because it is elastic and dynamic. It's members have controlled the direction by what they contribute.
But it is still a BBQ cooking site at its core.
Let's Talk BBQ Cooking.... outdoors and more!
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In my book, BBQ is outdoor cooking, everything else is second fiddle.
Digging my heels in the sand on this one Tee ;) :)
I kinda agree with Smoke, I like the site the way it is. The new site sounds interesting for those that like to do video and like watching them. I personally don't care for videos, I suppose it's an age thing, I just don't have the patience to watch more than 4 minutes of video, I like the still photos. Just my 2 cents worth but I vote for keeping it LetstalkBBQ. Smokin Don
You will be happy to know that the videos are targeted at 2 minutes.. And those will be hosted on Outdoor Cooking Digest. It will not change your habits here - unless you want to Don. Promise.
I hate change.
I'll go with whatever Muebe says, that young man is pretty sharp. ;D
To hate change is a natural response. I get that…but this will not really change the site….just the name at the top of it! Our content may expand in definition, but not much - we already have grown the forum sections to the point that , there is not much that we don't already have a thread section for. ;)
If y'all need me I will be in the BBQ section ;) That is where I am comfortable at 8)
I think of it all as BBQ, but - again…that does not include the way people look for recipes, ideas…and experienced folks - like YOU to help them….And, we can always figure out a way to create a "road sign", like "Click here for BBQ Talk. Click here for all other Outdoor Cooking - but that seems a little un-friendly don't you think? And….I KNOW that is not who we are.
Remember - same rules, same management….just more folks to participate, and more options of things to read, or view. 2 sites, intertwined by referring folks back and forth - but 2 stand alone sites nonetheless. Just like LTBBQ, only more of it - bigger and better ;)
So my preference would be LET'S TALK BBQ ...and more.
Noted…but try to remember that you and I see this site thru the eyes of familiarity. Like a pair of comfortable old shoes ( to steal from Smoke... ;D) That is fine, but it is limiting to our growth. We need not lose the friendly, neighborly atmosphere here. BUt we can make it bigger and add to the content. That will work best if folks looking for specific content can tell that we cover more of "the bases" by not being BBQ-centric. We really are not anyway if you look at all of the posts of recipes tha cover the gamut of all things edible…even VEGETABLES!!! :D
So, I ask that everyone please keep an open mind. Ask questions. Make suggestions. But try to understand that this all make the site better and create more information for more people.It will always remain "BBQ at it's core - because that is who WE are….but we are trying ways to make the site more appealing to more people. Who knows what skillets they can add - that you will appreciate once given the chance?
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I say in the spirit of LTBBQ, Tee ya post a poll with the name you want and the name we have now and let us decide.......of course this is your playground and if the name change is what you see fit then I will support it 110% :)
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Well…if it was just me - and my likes, heck - I would leave it alone. That is what I have been trying to convey. That in order to make the 2 sites easier to find via SEO ( search engine optimization I have been told that making the names more similar would help. Folks that find one site will be referred to the other one depending on what features they are looking for. We already have a great collection of info and users here - so, it just makes sense to associate them closely. And, it does not change this SITE - only thing affected would be a name tweak. So, I really have to leave the final naming up to the people involved in the setting up and optimization of the site. But, it will not be anything un-like what we have talked about already.
The concept of what we are talking about has some big impact potential, in ways that I can't go into here. It is the next natural progression in inter-active forums and user driven information sites.
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I say in the spirit of LTBBQ, Tee ya post a poll with the name you want and the name we have now and let us decide.......of course this is your playground and if the name change is what you see fit then I will support it 110% :)
I go along with this as long as tee quits using words like "colloquial vernacular" that I have to use a dictionary to see what it means! ;)
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I say in the spirit of LTBBQ, Tee ya post a poll with the name you want and the name we have now and let us decide.......of course this is your playground and if the name change is what you see fit then I will support it 110% :)
I go along with this as long as tee quits using words like "colloquial vernacular" that I have to use a dictionary to see what it means! ;)
Tee spends a lot of time with his word of the day toilet paper ;D
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Well…it was a buffet lunch…so it took a lot of squares….. :o ??? ::) ;D
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Right!! His use of 3 syllable words just plain confuse me....though impressive to folks with some schooling..... :D :D :D
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I must be an opposite because I've always thought of this site as much more than BBQ. To me it's grilling, and smoking, and frying, and processing/preperation. It's pellets, and chips, and charcoal, and wood, and propane. Ands that is way more than BBQ. It's one big cooking explosion
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This sounds like an interesting addition to our little world. I am OK with any name change, no name change, heck even no name at all...as long as when I click on that little favorites star, the bbq file and this site pulls up!!!! Tee, you have spent the time and money building what in my opinion the best bbq out there. It is the one I come to every chance I get and hope to have more time to contribute more. As the old saying says "It's your baby and you can raise any way you want". I do appreciate your time and efforts!!!
Dan
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I must be an opposite because I've always thought of this site as much more than BBQ. To me it's grilling, and smoking, and frying, and processing/preperation. It's pellets, and chips, and charcoal, and wood, and propane. Ands that is way more than BBQ. It's one big cooking explosion
An observant fellow eh Bryan? :D
An - THAT is all we want to convey tot eh passers-by on the internet. That WE ARE much more than BBQ. Not taking anything away from our first love - and where many of us spend more of our time here…BBQ.
But, like muebe pointed out earlier, and as you observed - we all will use out Outdoor Cooking gear - for much more than BBQ. Essentially a common belief exists on LTBBQ:
Anything you can cook indoors..you can cook BETTER outdoors! Now - that does not make it BBQ, but it certainly includes BBQ ( in a starring role for most of us ;))
This sounds like an interesting addition to our little world. I am OK with any name change, no name change, heck even no name at all...as long as when I click on that little favorites star, the bbq file and this site pulls up!!!! Tee, you have spent the time and money building what in my opinion the best bbq out there. It is the one I come to every chance I get and hope to have more time to contribute more. As the old saying says "It's your baby and you can raise any way you want". I do appreciate your time and efforts!!!
Dan
You are a gentlemen among men. But - this is not really my decision. It is consortium of people that we hired to advise and put all of this into play. I think the part that has received the least amount of response ( and I can't say that I am not a little discouraged about this…) is that this is designed to enhance your experience in using this site by increasing access - via the Outdoor Cooking Digest site - to more data, recipes, videos. AND….we want YOU to do the videos. YOu will have plenty of support and assistance including equipment that we will furnish. We are not looking for "studio productions". We are looking for REAL people - that REALLY cook. Like YOU ALL. [/color]
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I really look forward to the changes but like what has been done so far.
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Thanks Aaron. I would not consider it if I did not truly believe that we can take something really good - and make it great. We will not do anything to disrupt the site or change the way you use it. Just add to the capabilities of the site.
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Heck it's just a name!
If this works some of you will make videos & be world famous!
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Another site that I visit on a daily basis has a video board as well. There, members can post and upload their videos without any restrictions on length so that members can search and refer to those that are of interest.
One of the things that this site builds is a camaraderie among its members where a certain amount of familiarity is developed along with trust and confidence in those that participate. If that is going to disappear as this site evolves no matter what you call it, the site will not be worth visiting any more. Right now, at least, I feel that this site has developed a special rapport among its members that does not exist on other places on the internet. If it loses that special relationship with whatever changes you envision, it will not be worth visiting anymore. And, you will have a different type of viewer such as on the smokingmeatforums.com.
So be it.
Ed
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Another site that I visit on a daily basis has a video board as well. There, members can post and upload their videos without any restrictions on length so that members can search and refer to those that are of interest.
One of the things that this site builds is a camaraderie among its members where a certain amount of familiarity is developed along with trust and confidence in those that participate. If that is going to disappear as this site evolves no matter what you call it, the site will not be worth visiting any more. Right now, at least, I feel that this site has developed a special rapport among its members that does not exist on other places on the internet. If it loses that special relationship with whatever changes you envision, it will not be worth visiting anymore. And, you will have a different type of viewer such as on the smokingmeatforums.com.
So be it.
Ed
Well said VOD. This place is special, and it worry that it never takes much to get us on the wrong path.....This is more like family. Growth for growths sake is not always a great thing
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I suppose the only logical response to to your concerns Ed, and Pappy are…to ask: What do you attribute the worries about any shift in the closeness we have? I have explained the agenda - or I thought I have. Have I been un-clear, and ned to re-state the why and how of this project? It is the membership itself that stands to see improvement in access to more content - and fun making that content. Ed, I know that you enjoy doing such. This would be an opportunity for you to post more of your videos and recipes.
This has been in the works for some time, but I wanted to confirm that we have enough of the the right kinds of folks to make it work, and maintain the community as is. If there are genuine concerns, I would like to hear them. I do care about our "family" here - and see no reason that you should have these concerns.
If I am overlooking something, please tell me.
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to be honest w/ ya it really doesn't matter what the name is. we will still be here chatting w/ each other just like we do everyday. I do like that the site is a lot more the just bbq. love the mad scientist thing and all the pizzas coming out. it is the best forum around. and, we got all the cool ppl anyway. 8)
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T, can you reveal information about the new site such as what platform, will it be single sign-on relation between LTBBQ and the new site.
It seems that there are quite a few members of LTBBQ that are happy with the name as it is, and i can't argue with the fact that sites one visits and becomes fond of are much like that old favorite sweatshirt - you don't want a new one. Looking at it from another angle, have you thought of naming the new site to be more aligned with this one - some kind of a name like The LTBBQ Outdoor Cooking Digest, or The Outdoor Cooking Digest by LTBBQ - might also result in positive SEO
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What makes this site special to me ;D
I have been on this site for less than one year but it has helped me thru bad times in my life by supporting me while I support my wife.
A member was missing for a while and another member puts the word out and others assist in finding out how he is. He is back and I truly hope he continues to recover.
Another member travels half way around the world and takes the time to get together.
These are just a small part of what makes this site great. The name can change but all the rest will not.
I am not a writer so I hope this makes a little sense.
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I don't care what you call it, i just have to make another bookmark and try to remember how to get here. I am old, it is hard,
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I don't care what you call it, i just have to make another bookmark and try to remember how to get here. I am old, it is hard,
:DHow many times do I need to say….. "You will not have to do ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY" to reach this site. :D It is not magic - It is my promise. ;D I can assure you that this is done all of the time on the internet, and you may not be aware of it. It is merely a forwarding command - much like how you would have calls forwarded to you. The new site - which is different from LTBBQ, and will focus on video - will have a separate address. *BUT* - it will have a link here on LTBBQ all of the time, so it is 1 click away.
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Tee, I like the idea of videos.. it adds a whole new dimension to the site and will make it all the more informative to people wanting to try new dishes and techniques.
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I need to find a way to explain enough of the "plan" so that no one thinks I am going to wreck LTBBQ. I promise - it will not change anything we do here. It will be an associated site. A "sister-site". And they will cross reference one another a lot. There is only one perceived inconvenience for LTBBQ. That is, we need to adjust or tweak the name to fall in line with the other site. Not a complete name change. Nothing that will cause anyone to re-enter anything different on their computers to find us here.
Merely a slight name change at the top of the page on the LTBBQ page to make it more cohesive to the new site.
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1. I'm sooo confused (not surprising anyone there).
2. I am not responsible for the bold blue style used above by the Aggie (although I accept the imitation as flattery thing).
3. Make sure you print any recipes shown in video posts so we can cut and paste.
4. Call the site whatever you want; just fire up the cookers and get back to work.
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I thought only turtle's get to use the blue color ???
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Well the only other good color choice that seems easily readable looks like poop-brown, tho it calls itself maroon. ( too many opportunities for getting grief over that one….)
And….I can't help that Turtle's lack of opposable phalanges lead hip to mere "flipper whacking' " and thus - the keyboard turn blue from frustration. It is a genetic thing. :D
There…is that better? ;D
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I need to find a way to explain enough of the "plan" so that no one thinks I am going to wreck LTBBQ. I promise - it will not change anything we do here. It will be an associated site. A "sister-site". And they will cross reference one another a lot. There is only one perceived inconvenience for LTBBQ. That is, we need to adjust or tweak the name to fall in line with the other site. Not a complete name change. Nothing that will cause anyone to re-enter anything different on their computers to find us here.
Merely a slight name change at the top of the page on the LTBBQ page to make it more cohesive to the new site.
Just remember, you screw it up and we know where you live - sort of. ;D ;D ;D
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I am getting more in line with Tee on this, and this ole foggie can adapt to change! Tee and all the moderators have run a great site; and all members do great on staying on topic, about BBQ and food, keeping it a family site, and have embraced all methods of cooking. I know it involves some cost to run a site like this and all the sponsors do a great job, the ads are kept to a minimum and the sponsors are not invasive about selling their products. I recall some members who are in to making videos on their cooks, Jaxon, Veryolddog, and Dr. Holly; and they were all done pretty pro to me. I think a sister site is good so these people can show their artistic side of cooking too. In all growth would be good for the sponsors and the members too. I love that we have some international members too so we all can learn from them. I am with you Tee so let it happen! Don
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Count old Smoke in as well :)
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Remember "T", you promised me a cookie ;)
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Count old Smoke in as well :)
Count this old HighOnSmoke in as well! :) My feelings is the worst that could happen is that
we will really like it! 8)