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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2020, 05:20:57 PM »
My son and girlfriend came up to Washington to visit for a week. His views are so different than my wife and mine.  There have been many arguments to the point where i have to go for walks just to get out of the house because I'm not taking someone who says im am so out of touch with society.   If he only knew what's going on in Seattle he would change his mind.

Your son's name is not "Meathead" is it? LOL

This brought a flashback to my mind with Archie and Meathead arguing over politics many years ago!
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2020, 05:54:55 PM »
You know, I agree with a lot that is said here.

That said, I'm disgusted that yet another one of the places I go to discuss and read about one of my favorite hobbies has become inundated with political viewpoints and agendas.

This is by far the most popular thread since I have been here. Has rolled most everything else off of the list on the homepage.

You 10 or 12 members who actively participate here.... have fun. I'm going to go find a forum where people like to talk about food and BBQ.

Well...I guess you can't please all the people all of the time. :D Best of luck on finding the "perfect" forum.  We are not. But - we are very real, and open minded. Ever seen a flame war here? NOPE.... And - if a "monument" offends you - just don't look at it.
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2020, 06:24:53 PM »
Isn't it absolutely unbelievable how fast things have changed in this country? In fact - when we started this forum ...what 5 or so years ago? No Admin or Moderator would allow a discussion like this to stand - because back then it would be viewed as "political".

Don't take this the wrong way Tim. But this is part of the problem we face. It really started many years ago. We all allowed this to grow all these years. It has not happened fast it has been a slow cancer growing in America all these years.  My dad born in 1912 could never understand the Hippies of the 60's. He would say when we did not like something growing up we would try to change it by using our system of government. He went on to say Hippies (kids of the 60's) just want to destroy everything without a plan to replace it with something better....crazy.

Every big nation dies from within.....yes at the end it is a war or battle that does them in but it is really from within.  We are dying now lets see if we can save ourselves again. We are a dying whale, with sharks just waiting to rip us apart at the right time.

IMO there is nothing wrong with us here but allowing this to grow into what we have now.

God Bless you all....You are good people.
No argument from me! It can all be traced back to President Coolidge - in seeing that due to the new Industrial Revolution, we needed to educate more Engineers, scientists, etc. So he put out a call for college professors. The call was answered largely by Eastern European instructors. Those whose world vision was shaped by Socialism. The precepts of Bigger Govt, more laws and less self responsibility can trace their roots to that specific time as the "seed planting" era...
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2020, 08:18:20 PM »
Isn't it absolutely unbelievable how fast things have changed in this country? In fact - when we started this forum ...what 5 or so years ago? No Admin or Moderator would allow a discussion like this to stand - because back then it would be viewed as "political".

Don't take this the wrong way Tim. But this is part of the problem we face. It really started many years ago. We all allowed this to grow all these years. It has not happened fast it has been a slow cancer growing in America all these years.  My dad born in 1912 could never understand the Hippies of the 60's. He would say when we did not like something growing up we would try to change it by using our system of government. He went on to say Hippies (kids of the 60's) just want to destroy everything without a plan to replace it with something better....crazy.

Every big nation dies from within.....yes at the end it is a war or battle that does them in but it is really from within.  We are dying now lets see if we can save ourselves again. We are a dying whale, with sharks just waiting to rip us apart at the right time.

IMO there is nothing wrong with us here but allowing this to grow into what we have now.

God Bless you all....You are good people.
No argument from me! It can all be traced back to President Coolidge - in seeing that due to the new Industrial Revolution, we needed to educate more Engineers, scientists, etc. So he put out a call for college professors. The call was answered largely by Eastern European instructors. Those whose world vision was shaped by Socialism. The precepts of Bigger Govt, more laws and less self responsibility can trace their roots to that specific time as the "seed planting" era...

T, my understanding is that,  -it was not just Coolidge, but also his cadre of "like minded" intellectuals, who already knew their end game, and who actually recruited those same "like minded" professors from these regions. Not just eastern European, but Europeans who were much more enlightened, suave, sophisticated and genteel in their enlightened thinking, and were needed in the USA to curb the brash, backwoods 'bacy chewin', 'shine swilling, hog wallowin', free thinking upstarts that dared to poke King George lll in the eye, and so that we'd quit being the burr under the world's saddle.

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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2020, 10:28:57 PM »
I really didn't see a post in this thread that tried to push an agenda other than trying to protect the great nation that I was born in, and which I am damn proud of. God Bless America.

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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2020, 07:49:17 AM »
You know, I agree with a lot that is said here.

That said, I'm disgusted that yet another one of the places I go to discuss and read about one of my favorite hobbies has become inundated with political viewpoints and agendas.

This is by far the most popular thread since I have been here. Has rolled most everything else off of the list on the homepage.

You 10 or 12 members who actively participate here.... have fun. I'm going to go find a forum where people like to talk about food and BBQ.

I hate to see you leave due to this but the choice is yours. The choice is also yours to just not engage in a post that you don't like. This forum has literally thousands of BBQ and food related posts and I am fairly certain that this is the only one that is in any way politically charged, and even then it's more of a "State of the Union" discussion. It's also posted in General Discussion and that's exactly what it is, a discussion.

I would say that I am sorry that you're offended, but I'm not. Take care nonetheless, I hope you find what you're looking for!
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2020, 08:14:00 AM »
As a country when we need change we need it as people together not apart as we need to do what is best for our nation
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2020, 08:23:05 AM »
You know, I agree with a lot that is said here.

That said, I'm disgusted that yet another one of the places I go to discuss and read about one of my favorite hobbies has become inundated with political viewpoints and agendas.

This is by far the most popular thread since I have been here. Has rolled most everything else off of the list on the homepage.

You 10 or 12 members who actively participate here.... have fun. I'm going to go find a forum where people like to talk about food and BBQ.

I think it is unfair to say inundated with political viewpoints as it is less then .05% of the posts on here. I can't talk about other sites but this one is all about good food & helping each other out in cooking & in life. I hope you stay but it is a free country.  As far as agenda I think we all love our country & want the best for it....that is all. This is a great group of people to be around that is why I am here.
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2020, 08:44:40 AM »
I too am in the process of disconnecting from the censored social media and watching the news which has become nothing but propaganda.  With what is going on in this great country today and the governors and mayors not having the guts to do anything about it I find disgusting. 

I recently watched a video of protestors in a young police officers face cursing him and giving him the middle finger.  One was smoking a cigarette and blowing smoke right up his nostrils.  I don't know how he had the restraint to just stand there and stare straight ahead. 

I think I'll spend my time reading and cooking bbq.
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2020, 09:14:36 AM »
I too am in the process of disconnecting from the censored social media and watching the news which has become nothing but propaganda.  With what is going on in this great country today and the governors and mayors not having the guts to do anything about it I find disgusting. 

I recently watched a video of protestors in a young police officers face cursing him and giving him the middle finger.  One was smoking a cigarette and blowing smoke right up his nostrils.  I don't know how he had the restraint to just stand there and stare straight ahead. 

I think I'll spend my time reading and cooking bbq.
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2020, 09:48:22 AM »
My son is a police officer like Art's and I feel for all officers everyday.

Can you imagine the crap they have to deal with then know "IF" I do anything to anyone  it's all gonna be viewed then re-viewed then tweaked by the news to fit there agenda?    I'm proud my son does what he does and he likes the fact he can make a difference BUT it's wearing on him like a cancer.

I have more but will leave it at that.....  Art knows how I feel along with anyone who has family in law enforcement
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2020, 11:04:30 AM »
My son is a police officer like Art's and I feel for all officers everyday.

Can you imagine the crap they have to deal with then know "IF" I do anything to anyone  it's all gonna be viewed then re-viewed then tweaked by the news to fit there agenda?    I'm proud my son does what he does and he likes the fact he can make a difference BUT it's wearing on him like a cancer.

I have more but will leave it at that.....  Art knows how I feel along with anyone who has family in law enforcement
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2020, 12:07:51 PM »
As I told the others TMB, Please pass along our gratitude to your son for his extraordinary bravery. It would take nerves of steel to be in law enforement. Especially with the attitudes today and the media. We'll pray for our brave men and women who protect us.

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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2020, 01:27:27 PM »
I personally can't see why anyone would want to be a police officer now.
They are demeaned and degraded everywhere they go. They can't even buy lunch or a cup of coffee without having to take abuse. They get no support from their police chiefs. (seeing as how most of them are appointed by liberal mayors)  They can't do their jobs, because if they do, they are likely to be charged with murder. Got to be the worst job in America today.
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Re: Do you ever feel that enough is enough?
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2020, 02:08:42 PM »
My son is a police officer like Art's and I feel for all officers everyday.

Can you imagine the crap they have to deal with then know "IF" I do anything to anyone  it's all gonna be viewed then re-viewed then tweaked by the news to fit there agenda?    I'm proud my son does what he does and he likes the fact he can make a difference BUT it's wearing on him like a cancer.

I have more but will leave it at that.....  Art knows how I feel along with anyone who has family in law enforcement

Tommy I was selling/training officers on video cameras a few years ago. i would tell them for every camera you have there may be 20 out there trying to nail you. Make yours count.
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