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Outdoor Cooking Equipment => Charbroil Infrared & SRG style Cookers => Grills & Smokers => Big Easy (BEESR) and SRG Type cookers => Topic started by: airberryblue on June 26, 2014, 10:55:42 PM
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Today 2 very large boxs showed with parts to replace the ones that were dented and scratched from my brand new SRG. A new top lid, outer body, cooking chamber, and heat sheild were contained in the 2 very large boxes, invoice also showed 3 of the foot kit, but they were not in the boxes. This all comes about 2 months after receiving my new out of the box Char Broil Big Easy SRG. I contacted them right away about the damaged parts letting them know something new from the factory should not have any parts looking like this. The box had no damage so I know nothing happen in transit. So tomorrow I call them back about the missing replacement legs. No one local carries the grill so it was ordered online, otherwise it would have been swapped out the first day. I have enjoyed cooking with my smaller Big Easy, and really like the SRG, but not sure I would ever buy from Char Broil again based on customer service.
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Sorry to hear of your experience with Char-Broil Customer Service.
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I was disappointed in them, but I still enjoy the grills I have. I know several people who bought their Big Easy oil-less fryers because of me sharing info and food. For those thinking about upgrading like I did, half of them have decided to wait or just stick with the small Big Easy. When I recomend a product I share the good, bad and ughly so people know everything I do. Customer service is very important.
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And - we absolutely agree that honesty about your experience with a product - and the manufacturer is valuable to all of us. As long as the information is presented in a tasteful, factual and respectable manner (which you have done, and I thank you for that... ;) ) then - we ALL benefit by it. Including the manufacturer.
I see too many "reviews" posted all over the internet that are nothing but an emotional rant ( and - we all feel that way about something occasionally ;D ) and not only are they difficult to read - but, you have to wonder if the truth of the matter was tainted by the person's anger amplifying the problem.
Kudos for reporting your experience, and - I hope that they get this straightened out for you.
T
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Sorry about your problem with their CS. Honestly I have always had very good CS from Charbroil, even though I have heard some horror stories. Enjoy that SRG !!!
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Capt, after another call, I am told the missing parts of my order will be shipped out again. Fingers are crossed. I have done most of this via phone, however they did request photos of the damaged parts, which I sent moments after getting off the phone. I received a confirmation email of receiving the photos and would get back with me as to how they would go forward, then a month later they closed the case saying they had not heard from me to receive the photos. Another call with them they found the email that they had sent to me confirming the receiving of my pictures but nothing was followed up on except to close the case. I am happy to finally receive the other parts and feel better the other missing ones are in order mode. On a good note, my grill does cook even with the damaged parts so I have been able to enjoy some great food. I am pretty easy to make happy, so I know in the long run all the great meals to be cooked on my SRG will make this all fade away.
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CS from CB has always been top notch for me.
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Ive heard enough about CB to make me leery of buying,like they dont last.Now this cS scares me.Is there a redeeming quality that makes them worth the negatives,or is it just Weber for quality?
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Well...
I think it is fair to look at WHO Char-Broil is, and how they approach the market: They have never been thought of by the public - nor have they tried to promote themselves as the high price ( or highest quality ) leader. They do strive to offer some innovative ideas, and lots of features - for the lowest price in their category.
So - it is fiscally impossible to offer the BEST product for the LOWEST price in a free market economy. ;) :)
This is not a defense of - nor a castigation of Char-Broil. They have a market strategy that has made them the largest producer of outdoor cooking equipment in the world. So - it has worked for them. Having said that - we do see and hear mixed reviews of the customer service experience. I have personally had both extremes.
I look at the offerings from them - and when they suit my needs - I will buy a CB grill or product. Not because it is the greatest quality - it is not. Not because it is the cheapest - tho it usually is. Most often I buy a CB because the designs offer a feature that is not available on any other grill - at a price point that suits me. But...I always buy from Lowe's or Home Depot - knowing that if there is a problem, I can return it and get a replacement should it come out of the box incomplete or damaged.
T
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Ive heard enough about CB to make me leery of buying,like they dont last.Now this cS scares me.Is there a redeeming quality that makes them worth the negatives,or is it just Weber for quality?
spuds - the most unique thing that CharBroil builds is the SRG. no one offers anything like it. it will do cooks that no other appliance can do. whatever trouble you go through to get it set up is worth it. it is how I discovered infrared cooking. and how I discovered the CharBroil forum and met most of the folks on this message board. NOTHING cooks bird like an SRG!
when I cull down I may end up with just my SRG & my 22"OldSmokey. the grill attachment on the SRG is a great grill for quick grilling cooks. and if I need to grill more food I can always use the grill on the OldSmokey. and I do all my indirect cooks on the OldSmokey.
I love my SRG, it's become my go to for poultry, potato's, really most everything and with the grill it cooks most of our dinners now, at least 5-6 meals a week. I have only over cooked one thing on it and that was hanging chicken quarters that got dried out because I got distracted on the phone and left them on way to long. My Bradley's are now used primarily for cold smokes or something that I want to do low and slow.
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The SRG is a poultry cooking machine!!!! Great for spuds too ;D
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Good info.So SRG is worth it.Now for a typical grill,others would be better choices if not looking for lowest entry point?
Thanks guys,its this info thats so helpful.
Ive really got to the point in life where I dont take lowest cost as main selling point,but value over long term is what matters. Like I can buy a 20 dollar hose that lasts 3-5 years,or a 50 dollar that lasts decades.
So SRG is a PBC thats gas powered pretty much? And can you explain more on what infrared is vrs just heat on a cooker? Im not up to speed on that either.
THANK YOU for the education.
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Infrared works like light but at a different wave length and not visible unless with special equipment like FLIR. The wave length is what creates the variation in energy when it makes contact with an object like food. Infrared energy will travel through glass however. Certain glass it will not completely travel through. It depends on the composition of the glass.
When metal is heated it realeases infrared energy. And this is how the SRG works. The burner ring heats the interior drum of metal from the outside of it. Then the hot metal transfers infrared energy into the chamber. The air is also heated from the metal being hot. So you get a nice mix of infrared and hot air for cooking. The darker the metal the better the infrared energy that is released and also absorbed. Certain metals like aluminum can reflect that energy. So aluminum foil will block a majority of that energy.
The infrared energy is able to travel into the meat for quicker and more even cooking. Not just the surface is heated. Kind of like a microwave however a microwave is actually just agitating the water molecules creating heat. This kind of cooking creates very moist and delicious meat that finish in less time. And because it cooks internally the outside of the meat does not dry out before the interior is done. It does not heat the air but whatever object can absorb the wavelength. The sun for example is a huge source of infrared energy. We are too far from the sun to feel the actual heat being released but the infrared light is making contact with the earth and atmosphere creating heat.
There is one downside to using infrared. Any type of sugars that come into contact with infrared will burn quickly. So if you use a sugar based rub you will end up with a blackened bird.
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Ive heard enough about CB to make me leery of buying,like they dont last.Now this cS scares me.Is there a redeeming quality that makes them worth the negatives,or is it just Weber for quality?
If you take care of them the will. Had SRG's since they came out (mine was one of the first) never had any issues until last week when the ignitor knob broke :( but I can still cook with it
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muebe, that was a great explanation
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If I had to be restricted to only one cooker it would be the SRG. Dee
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I sure appreciate the answers.
Sooo...cooks fairly cool,cooks real hot.can smoke,can cook covered and can grill.Quality to versatility to price is very good. Buy it where you cab see it first to avoid damaged unit.All correct?
It looks portable,it is OK to be a car camping cooker?
So Mrs wants a gas grill,we mostly cook for two...This would be THE gas grill to get it appears?does it come with a tank?
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I think it's a little large for a car but a truck or SUV will carry it. No it does not come with a tank.
I ordered mine from Amazon and it arrived in good shape.
The smoke box is a pain... There are easy ways around that so I just don't use it. Not a deal breaker though.
I added smoke in my TBE for years before the SRG came out.
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I've had the original Big Easy for 5 1/2 years and it STILL cooks a pretty bird...as advertised.
I am still going strong with the CharBroil Tru Infrared Quantum 4 Burner I've used for over 4 years. I keep a heavy-duty cover on it, keep the grates clean, clean the outside regularly and clean it inside at least twice a year - removing all the parts and brushing them clean.
They make a good product for the price IMHO. I'm not one who is likely to spend more than$500 on a grill. This one has given me more than my money's worth.
just sayin'...
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Thank you gentlemen,sounds like just what I should get.Sold another SRG,on to the wish list.
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I believe Char Broil had an off day when my SRG was packed to leave the factory. I do a lot of cooking and most of what I use is pretty old and made to last, but when I do buy something new I want it to be free of dents, scratches, and chipped coating. I first saw the Char Broil Big Easy oil-less fry at Pro Bass shop and I wanted one right away, but I waited to research it. By luck I found one that had very little use in a thrift store for $50, brought it home and started using right away. I knew I had to have the SRG next, so after almost a year I ordered one online and was so exited when I received it 2 days later. Opened the box to find several pieces dented, scratched, and chipped. True, grilling would function even with the different damaged pieces, but I should be the first one to dent, scatch, or chip my new grill. Side point, the box was in perfect condition, so I am pretty sure nothing happen in transit. At this point the final pieces, for the 3 damaged legs are due in by Tuesday. It has taken about 2 months from my first contact with them to get to this point, last week the new top lid, outer body, and cooking chamber arrived. I do think I will enjoy many grilled meals from my SRG, but I do believe Char Broil missed the mark at the factory and with delayed customer service this time, hopefully they will do better in the future. Below you can see some of the damage I had, and why I wanted CB to make things right.
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I believe Char Broil had an off day when my SRG was packed to leave the factory. I do a lot of cooking and most of what I use is pretty old and made to last, but when I do buy something new I want it to be free of dents, scratches, and chipped coating. I first saw the Char Broil Big Easy oil-less fry at Pro Bass shop and I wanted one right away, but I waited to research it. By luck I found one that had very little use in a thrift store for $50, brought it home and started using right away. I knew I had to have the SRG next, so after almost a year I ordered one online and was so exited when I received it 2 days later. Opened the box to find several pieces dented, scratched, and chipped. True, grilling would function even with the different damaged pieces, but I should be the first one to dent, scatch, or chip my new grill. Side point, the box was in perfect condition, so I am pretty sure nothing happen in transit. At this point the final pieces, for the 3 damaged legs are due in by Tuesday. It has taken about 2 months from my first contact with them to get to this point, last week the new top lid, outer body, and cooking chamber arrived. I do think I will enjoy many grilled meals from my SRG, but I do believe Char Broil missed the mark at the factory and with delayed customer service this time, hopefully they will do better in the future. Below you can see some of the damage I had, and why I wanted CB to make things right.
Sorry for all your troubles with them, but it is a large company and there has been issues like this for a while. I was told there were changes being made so lets hope they get it right and fix those issues
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Yeah,thats pretty shoddy.I wouldn't have been happy either. >:(
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For better or worse, I have the grill I wanted and that makes me happy. The rest is going to work it self out. Who knows, I might start thinking about using some of Tommy's modifications. Just add it to my kooky ideas for cooking. Many were surprised when I showed them, I could cook with the sun, I won that bet.
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For better or worse, I have the grill I wanted and that makes me happy. The rest is going to work it self out. Who knows, I might start thinking about using some of Tommy's modifications. Just add it to my kooky ideas for cooking. Many were surprised when I showed them, I could cook with the sun, I won that bet.
You mean like this? I love my Sun Oven.Makes great bread and stews.
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Spuds, yours is much cooler than what I did, mine was home made to prove a point. Slow cooked some stew in a black box with reflectors and a black pot inside, also baked a cake. What is the make and model of your solar oven?
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http://www.sunoven.com/ 8)