Ka Honu..I tried the bread, but rice seemed to work better for me. Almost is the key word there. Don't remember who told me that, but it's good. That is why I have dedicated spice grinders. I have a Molcajete that I can't change the odors either. I just keep adding to them and it keeps getting better, unlike the spice grinder. Good think they are cheap. Pam .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.