Let's Talk BBQ
General => General Discussion & Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: rwalters on May 08, 2018, 05:37:36 PM
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Curious to hear from others...
For this question, lets pretend that it is a pleasant day. 70 degrees, sunny and no wind.
You start up your pellet grill, and set the controller to 450 degrees.
My question: Given this scenario, how long would it take from the moment you flip the switch until you are sitting at 450 degrees? Also, what make/model of pellet grill are you cooking on?
Curious to hear what kind of pre-heat times others are experiencing.
For the record, on a 70 degree day, I expect my MAK to be sitting at 450 degrees at right around the 20 minute mark.
I know size of pit matters... thickness of steel matters... as does insulated vs non-insulated... as does type of wood pellets.
So that leads to one more question. Have you honestly found one type of pellet (maybe oak) to bring you up to desired grilling temps faster than another wood type (maybe cherry)?
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Oh yeah, and how even does your specific pellet grill cook, side to side/front to back, when grilling at 450-plus?
Just curious to hear the experiences of others :)
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From my prior notes....
My old Yoder - could take 30-40 minutes. The thick steel would really soak up the BYUs, then - the internal temp would climb.
My old Rec-Tec - 20+ minutes. Faster than the Yoder.
My curent MAK 2 Star with Flashfire.....5-8 minutes as best I can guess. It is FAST.
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From my prior notes....
My old Yoder - could take 30-40 minutes. The thick steel would really soak up the BYUs, then - the internal temp would climb.
My old Rec-Tec - 20+ minutes. Faster than the Yoder.
My curent MAK 2 Star with Flashfire.....5-8 minutes as best I can guess. It is FAST.
My MAK has the Flashfire and the Funnel Flame Zone, and no way can I be up to 450 in 5-8 minutes. On a hot day, maybe 15. I would love it if you would time it on a nice day and confirm. Now you've got me worried that something is wrong with my MAK... lol.
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From my prior notes....
My old Yoder - could take 30-40 minutes. The thick steel would really soak up the BYUs, then - the internal temp would climb.
My old Rec-Tec - 20+ minutes. Faster than the Yoder.
My curent MAK 2 Star with Flashfire.....5-8 minutes as best I can guess. It is FAST.
My MAK has the Flashfire and the Funnel Flame Zone, and no way can I be up to 450 in 5-8 minutes. On a hot day, maybe 15. I would love it if you would time it on a nice day and confirm. Now you've got me worried that something is wrong with my MAK... lol.
CORRECTION....350F.... my reading ( NOT reading ) too fast.....
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With my current MAK 1 Star setup (FlashFire Ignitor & new-style FlameZone) at 70° ambient temperature, it takes roughly 12 - 13 minutes to reach actual grate temps of 450° (in "grill" mode). This is measured WITHOUT foil (which acts as a radiant barrier to infrared) on the drip pan/covers.
I actually did tests at an ambient temp of 70° for the FlameZone review: 2017 MAK FlameZone, Searing Grate & Griddle - Detailed Review! (http://www.letstalkbbq.com/index.php?topic=20313.0)
And YES, the type of pellet absolutely matters! A Straight oak, or charcoal-blended pellet is what consistently gives me the best performance (high BTU's low ash). A charcoal blend edges out the straight oak, but straight oak is a lot more readily available.
An oak/hickory blend works well, but creates a little more ash.
The fruitwoods, (apple, cherry, peach, etc.), or blends such as Cooking Pellets "Perfect Mix" in my opinion, are best left for low & slow BBQ where their flavor profile has a chance to influence the flavor of the food.
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I have a 2 Star with the new funnel Flame Zone...so you pretty much know how long it takes mine to get up to temp.
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14-15 minutes to 450
Memphis Elite
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I have a 2 Star with the new funnel Flame Zone...so you pretty much know how long it takes mine to get up to temp.
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With my current MAK 1 Star setup (FlashFire Ignitor & new-style FlameZone) at 70° ambient temperature, it takes roughly 12 - 13 minutes to reach actual grate temps of 450° (in "grill" mode). This is measured WITHOUT foil (which acts as a radiant barrier to infrared) on the drip pan/covers.
I actually did tests at an ambient temp of 70° for the FlameZone review: 2017 MAK FlameZone, Searing Grate & Griddle - Detailed Review! (http://www.letstalkbbq.com/index.php?topic=20313.0)
And YES, the type of pellet absolutely matters! A Straight oak, or charcoal-blended pellet is what consistently gives me the best performance (high BTU's low ash). A charcoal blend edges out the straight oak, but straight oak is a lot more readily available.
An oak/hickory blend works well, but creates a little more ash.
The fruitwoods, (apple, cherry, peach, etc.), or blends such as Cooking Pellets "Perfect Mix" in my opinion, are best left for low & slow BBQ where their flavor profile has a chance to influence the flavor of the food.
You mentioned 450° grate temp... I am more curious about 450° Pellet Boss temp. I realize that’s much higher than 450° grate temp... but that’s what I am wondering. IMO, anything under 20 mins is cool. I find it crazy that some of these bigger THICKER pellet pits are taking 35-45 mins to hit the higher temps. That would drive me bonkers thinking of all those pellets being consumed just to bring it up to temp... not to mention just having to wait that long. Heck, I can have my kettle at 500+ in 15 mins with lump charcoal...lol.
Anyone else wanna chime in?
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You mentioned 450° grate temp... I am more curious about 450° Pellet Boss temp. I realize that’s much higher than 450° grate temp...
Oh... I see (said the blind man)! :D In that case, roughly 13 - 14 minutes (in "grill" mode, using oak or a charcoal-blend) for the pit boss to show 450° seems to be the norm for me. And it's usually showing around 500° within 15 - 16 minutes (I actually timed this for the FlameZone test review).
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My Rec Tec 680 takes 15 to 20 mins to warm up. Never really worried about it because I start the grill then go get the food and time I get ready to place the food in it's close enough
Most cooks are 225 to 255 If grilling burgers or steaks I use my SRG's or Grill2Go (unless I smoke them first)
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You mentioned 450° grate temp... I am more curious about 450° Pellet Boss temp. I realize that’s much higher than 450° grate temp...
Oh... I see (said the blind man)! :D In that case, roughly 13 - 14 minutes (in "grill" mode, using oak or a charcoal-blend) for the pit boss to show 450° seems to be the norm for me. And it's usually showing around 500° within 15 - 16 minutes (I actually timed this for the FlameZone test review).
Thanks Cliff! You’ve probably mentioned this before and I just can’t remember... but, in your reply you were careful to say “13-14 minutes in “grill” mode”. Please remind me, does running the Pellet Boss in Grill Mode cause the temp to come up to 450° quicker than just setting the Pellet Boss to 450° from the start? Are pellets fed into the fire differently? Does that fan blow differently? Seems like we’ve had this conversation... almost feels like I am having an early “senior moment”... lol.
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My Rec Tec 680 takes 15 to 20 mins to warm up. Never really worried about it because I start the grill then go get the food and time I get ready to place the food in it's close enough
Most cooks are 225 to 255 If grilling burgers or steaks I use my SRG's or Grill2Go (unless I smoke them first)
I agree... any grill (gas, charcoal or pellets) that can preheat within about 20 minutes is good by me. As you mentioned, light it and go about your prep work... knowing that you’ll have a grill ready to go in 20 mins or less. It’s the 40+ minute preheat grills that would drive me nuts ;)
I have just been curious to know if the majority of pellet grills on the market are in the 20 min and under camp... or if most take greater than 20 mins to hit grilling temps.
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Rec Tecs heat up very quickly and they are a large grill.
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Curious to hear from others...
For this question, lets pretend that it is a pleasant day. 70 degrees, sunny and no wind.
You start up your pellet grill, and set the controller to 450 degrees.
My question: Given this scenario, how long would it take from the moment you flip the switch until you are sitting at 450 degrees? Also, what make/model if pellet grill are you cooking on?
Curious to hear what kind of pre-heat times others are experiencing.
For the record, on a 70 degree day, I expect my MAK to be sitting at 450 degrees at right around the 20 minute mark.
I know size of pit matters... thickness of steel matters... as does insulated vs non-insulated... as does type of wood pellets.
So that leads to one more question. Have you honestly found one type of pellet (maybe oak) to bring you up to desired grilling temps faster than another wood type (maybe cherry)?
Robb---since MAK switched over to the new FlameZone design last year, it's been my experience to go from turn on to 450F in as little as 17 minutes, but generally right around 20 minutes, which is half the time it used to take with the 2nd generation FZ system. I DO believe that the TYPE and BRAND of pellet you use does matter. Alder, Maple, Apple are all LOW BTU producing pellets. Oak, Mesquite, Hickory and Pecan are hotter BTUs and Cherry falls somewhere in the middle. Personally, I use BEAR MOUNTAIN BBQ PELLETS. Have for decades (yeah, been cooking on pellet grills that long). They have always performed great, low ash and great smoke flavor. My 2 favorite varieties are Pecan and Cherry.
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Today was that "perfect" day here in New Mexico...
Took 15 minutes on my Memphis Elite. I've got Lumber Jack Competition Blend pellets in there.
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Today was that "perfect" day here in New Mexico...
Took 15 minutes on my Memphis Elite. I've got Lumber Jack Competition Blend pellets in there.
15 mins to 450°? If yes, that’s impressive for a pit that big!
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My new Rec Tec Stampede RT-590 was delivered yesterday. I plan to assemble and fire it up this weekend. I'll provide a rundown of everything I do with it...burn-in, heat up times, etc...
Any advice on seasoning or what to cook while feeling things out? I'm open to suggestions and would like a variety of items to work with that require different cooking temps.
I want to put it to work to see how easily or quickly the set temps can adjust.
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My new Rec Tec Stampede RT-590 was delivered yesterday. I plan to assemble and fire it up this weekend. I'll provide a rundown of everything I do with it...burn-in, heat up times, etc...
Any advice on seasoning or what to cook while feeling things out? I'm open to suggestions and would like a variety of items to work with that require different cooking temps.
I want to put it to work to see how easily or quickly the set temps can adjust.
Congrats! I love my RT680 and I know you will love your RT590
I would start (after burn in and oiling the unit for the first time) with can biscuits because you will find the hot and cool spots plus get a feel for the grill so see how it works but thats just me.
Most folks call it the biscuit test for that reason
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Today was that "perfect" day here in New Mexico...
Took 15 minutes on my Memphis Elite. I've got Lumber Jack Competition Blend pellets in there.
15 mins to 450°? If yes, that’s impressive for a pit that big!
Since last night was a guestimate, I thought I'd measure it tonight with a stopwatch. Outside temp was 72 degrees, very light breeze, less than 5mph. Burn pot started smoking at 1:45. I think it went to flame at around 3 minutes. At 10 minutes, temp was 280 and climbing fast. Here is the result as the temp passed the 450 degree mark...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/966/28328192418_121fe51ced.jpg)
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Today was that "perfect" day here in New Mexico...
Took 15 minutes on my Memphis Elite. I've got Lumber Jack Competition Blend pellets in there.
15 mins to 450°? If yes, that’s impressive for a pit that big!
Since last night was a guestimate, I thought I'd measure it tonight with a stopwatch. Outside temp was 72 degrees, very light breeze, less than 5mph. Burn pot started smoking at 1:45. I think it went to flame at around 3 minutes. At 10 minutes, temp was 280 and climbing fast. Here is the result as the temp passed the 450 degree mark...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/966/28328192418_121fe51ced.jpg)
I love the speed and intensity of the Memphis! Very impressive!!