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Title: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: smokeasaurus on March 02, 2013, 07:53:59 PM
kinda makes ya wonder if Char-Broil is going to throw its hat in the ring......

http://www.charbroil.com/hickory-wood-pellets.html
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: teesquare on March 02, 2013, 08:00:35 PM
Wow...at $3 per lb - that is a strong price, considering that brands like Lumberjack and others offer 100% Hickory  for about $1 per lb...or less ;)
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: muebe on March 02, 2013, 08:03:08 PM
5Lb bag for $14.99 :o

Don't see them selling too much at that price point.
Title: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: mikecorn.1 on March 02, 2013, 08:11:44 PM
Must have some traces of gold in them :o


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Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: Keymaster on March 02, 2013, 08:16:18 PM
WOW, talk about jumpin on the boat to china.
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: TMB on March 02, 2013, 08:29:56 PM
kinda makes ya wonder if Char-Broil is going to throw its hat in the ring......

http://www.charbroil.com/hickory-wood-pellets.html
Hey, maybe they liked my TCS pellet pooper  ;)     But I ain't paying $3 a lb for those  ??? ???
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: teesquare on March 02, 2013, 08:34:30 PM
Don't be surprised if you see a cheap, Treager style pellet grill from Char-Broil soon....
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: TMB on March 02, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
Don't be surprised if you see a cheap, Treager style pellet grill from Char-Broil soon....
Seems everyone is making a knock off Traeger grill these days.

 If CharBroil follows suit then to me it proves there is no one doing R&D over there.  They are just looking for the quick buck and that would be a shame  :-[   
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: muebe on March 02, 2013, 11:22:57 PM
Don't be surprised if you see a cheap, Treager style pellet grill from Char-Broil soon....
Seems everyone is making a knock off Traeger grill these days.

 If CharBroil follows suit then to me it proves there is no one doing R&D over there.  They are just looking for the quick buck and that would be a shame  :-[

Traeger no longer has a patent on the design so it is fair game...
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: TMB on March 02, 2013, 11:27:05 PM
Muebe I understand that I'm just saying if they come out with a knock off it just shows they don't want to invest in a new grill they design. 
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: muebe on March 02, 2013, 11:35:55 PM
It will take a manufacturer like Char-Broil or Weber to bring pellet grills to the masses. Big box store availability like Lowes or Home depot would help. I would love to see what Weber would come up with ;)

The thing is that a pellet grill will need to seriously "grill" out of the box otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it in general. Something that replaces their gasser or charcoal grill and can do low and slow.

Maybe a gas burner and pellet combination system. The best of both worlds ;)
Title: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: Pappymn on March 02, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
It will take a manufacturer like Char-Broil or Weber to bring pellet grills to the masses. Big box store availability like Lowes or Home depot would help. I would love to see what Weber would come up with ;)

The thing is that a pellet grill will need to seriously "grill" out of the box otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it in general. Something that replaces their gasser or charcoal grill and can do low and slow.

Maybe a gas burner and pellet combination system. The best of both worlds ;)

Was at Home Depot today. No pellet grills :( 

Lot of Brinkman offset cookers and gas. No pellet love in Minnesota.
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: muebe on March 03, 2013, 12:05:11 AM
It will take a manufacturer like Char-Broil or Weber to bring pellet grills to the masses. Big box store availability like Lowes or Home depot would help. I would love to see what Weber would come up with ;)

The thing is that a pellet grill will need to seriously "grill" out of the box otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it in general. Something that replaces their gasser or charcoal grill and can do low and slow.

Maybe a gas burner and pellet combination system. The best of both worlds ;)

Was at Home Depot today. No pellet grills :( 

Lot of Brinkman offset cookers and gas. No pellet love in Minnesota.

None here either. It might just mainly be online.
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: smokeasaurus on March 03, 2013, 10:24:55 AM
If Weber makes a pellet grill with legendary Weber quality we will all benefit from it. Pellet grilling will definitely be moved more to the forefront if Weber jumps in...........(http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc469/s1cott11/funny%20icons/twocents.gif)
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: drholly on March 03, 2013, 03:16:37 PM
The thing is that a pellet grill will need to seriously "grill" out of the box otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it in general. Something that replaces their gasser or charcoal grill and can do low and slow.

IMHO muebe has hit the nail on the head to bring pellet "grills" to the masses. I enjoy reading the threads about the pellet cookers and may in fact buy one someday. The biggest attraction to me is NOT the control or the mods (although they sound like fun  ;).) To me the big thing about pellet cookers are the pellets. I really like the fact that they are 100% wood. They are made (for the most part) in a very sustainable way. Contrasted to charcoal briquettes, I love the idea of the pellets. (Although I am NOT giving my PBC up - nope, no way!)

What keeps me from trading the rest of my stuff for a pellet grill - is the grill part. Yep, I get it, I can do some mods and probably make it grill - but as part of the unwashed masses - I don't want to do that. I want to grill on my grill and do the low & slow - both with pellets. I don't want gas for grilling if I'm replacing a gasser.

So, my challenge to Char Broil or Webber (since they are most likely to come in at a reasonable price point) come up with a pellet grill that grills, but can go low & slow as well. Price it affordably. I predict it fly off the floors.

David
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: muebe on March 03, 2013, 04:15:24 PM
The Memphis can grill very well with no mods I can assure you. I could get sear marks almost as good as my RED without a flame zone or grill grates by just leaving in the drip pan. But the price point on the Memphis is higher and might not be a big box item that Lowes or Home Depot would take a chance on being the name is not well known.

Weber is a mid grade to high grade name. Their name is known for quality, well made grills. The top of the line gasser is well over $1,000 and sells well.

A pellet grill can be made to grill if it is able to reach higher temps with a combination of insulation/double wall design, thick grates, and high quality metal parts that will not warp/bend due to the excessive heat. A flame zone insert with a controller that works with that function is also a must.

Most people in general are not fanatical I mean passionate like us about smokers and grills. I own way more cooking equipment than your average person. To reach that other consumer will require a quality replacement to their gasser that is also a green alternative. Something that men will gather around during a party and salivate over then tell their SWMBO that they want one too. I have a friend at work who had never heard of a pellet grill a year ago and I talked him into buying a Traeger. Now he went halves with me on a load of pellets and is looking at getting a larger grill now. What really got him interested was the Costco road show with Traeger. After seeing the grill in person and talking with me he was hooked. I made him understand how it works and what to expect. I too got a pellet grill after constantly seeing the great cooks on them at other forums.

It is nice to see these cheaper models go mainstream but again with their controllers and design people will try to use them as a grill and be dissatisfied with the results. Like a really fast looking car that cannot get out of it's own way. Because it looks like a grill and not a traditional smoker people will expect them to "act" like a grill too. So I really don't see these things going too far with the general public.
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: smoker pete on March 03, 2013, 05:04:39 PM
The Memphis can grill very well with no mods I can assure you.

Same with the MAK and a few other brands.  There are a lot a quality smoker-grills out there these days!!  :)  The mods are mostly done on the entry level units to make them more like the high end units ...
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: CaptJack on March 03, 2013, 05:15:15 PM
here's the current offerings at 3 of the big boxes
I think I might pick 'em- OzarkMtn/kmart, Char-Griller/Lowes, Brinkman/HomeDepot

(http://i46.tinypic.com/30ixjs9.jpg)

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Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: drholly on March 03, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
I see RecTec has a 24 months same as cash dealfor their entry cooker ( winter sale $998.) Thoughts? I know I need to do a lot of looking around, but this caught my eye (actually both of 'em..  ::))

David
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: TMB on March 03, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
I see RecTec has a 24 months same as cash dealfor their entry cooker ( winter sale $998.) Thoughts? I know I need to do a lot of looking around, but this caught my eye (actually both of 'em..  ::))

David
For the money the Rec-Tec is hard to beat. If I had the $$$$ I'd get one without asking Kimmie  ;)

 I really liked the ones we used at the cook-out and non of them gave a mins problem while we used them.  Not saying that GMG, MAK's or the rest aren't as good cuase they are all great grills but for 998.00 and free shipping very hard to beat 
Title: Re: Hickory pellets on the Char-Broil site
Post by: Barry CB Martin on March 03, 2013, 11:25:30 PM
From what I understand about the outdoor cooking market segment in the U.S. and Canada - and certainly others here know more - about 70% of the grills sold are in the $100 range and are considered disposable. Translation - folks don't take care of them and don't expect them to last for more than a couple 3-5 years....the charcoal expectation is a bit longer cause it's pretty much just a tub with grates and a cover.

I would hazard to hallucinate that when there is a pellet cooker that can be sold at that price level (manual?) it will get market traction. BUT I suspect $240 is the price that will turn the screw too.   8)