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Title: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: deestafford on March 15, 2014, 07:30:06 PM
I've noticed sometimes when I cut meat with a serrated edged steak knife it has a tendency to tear rather than cut.  What is y'all experience and which do you prefer?  Dee
Title: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: Northshore on March 15, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
Got rid of serrated ones. Straight edge cuts better and can always be touched up with a steel.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: muebe on March 15, 2014, 08:37:28 PM
The only serrated knife I use is a bread knife.

They tend to leave jagged cuts on meat. Not so good for presentation.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: pz on March 15, 2014, 08:51:19 PM
I use serrated, but with very fine teeth
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Post by: Saber 4 on March 15, 2014, 08:57:20 PM
The only serrated knife I use is a bread knife.

They tend to leave jagged cuts on meat. Not so good for presentation.

X2
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Post by: Savannahsmoker on March 15, 2014, 09:22:48 PM
I use a serrated for poultry and bread.
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Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on March 15, 2014, 11:04:14 PM
I never use serrated on meat, I only use serrated to slice bread and tomatoes.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: deestafford on March 16, 2014, 12:15:31 AM
I semi, sorta, feel the same as y'all but I was watching a TV program about steak houses and that big expensive one in NYC, Lugar's  or something like that, uses serrated.  Not only that, they bring the steaks right from the cooker to the table sizzilin' hot with no resting.  I'm gonna get me a good set of straight edge steak Knives. 
Dee
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: Ka Honu on March 16, 2014, 01:16:30 AM
dee - Use a sous vide system and sear after cooking and you won't need to rest the meat. It will also likely be tender enough to cut with a table knife so you won't have to buy expensive steak knives.

OBTW, the owner & chef at Peter Luger admit that theirs may not be the best way to prepare and serve a steak but it's the way they've always done it. We're talking about a restaurant that's been in business for over 125 years and I'm guessing that a steak sliced in the kitchen and dripping in juices still has a certain visual and emotional appeal to their customers.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: RAD on March 16, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
I think I've always used serrated knifes. I remember that I went and bought some nice steak knives and they were also serrated, after a couple of years I had to toss them because of the way they were tearing the meat. I got a knife set in the wood block thing and the steak knives are serrated and I've been using them for a couple of years without any issues, could be because they have very fine teeth.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: veryolddog on March 16, 2014, 08:57:05 AM
Before you throw away or not use those serrated knives, you might want to look at having them sharpened or purchase a sharpener that does both straight edge and serrated knives. I bought mine on Amazon.com and for a very reasonable price and sharpened my serrated knives and result was better than expected. I figured that if it did not work, I was no different than before I started. Now, I am much better off and get a nice smooth cut with these knives. They actually perform better than new.

Don't cut your self. I always touch my self on the finger to feel the blade. Didn't realize how sharp they were and and cut myself with hardly any pressure at all.

Presto 08800 EverSharp Electric Knife Sharpener - $25.99 - with Prime it ships for free in 2 days. It received a rating of 4.4 out of 5 with 1330 reviews.

Ed
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: muebe on March 16, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
Before you throw away or not use those serrated knives, you might want to look at having them sharpened or purchase a sharpener that does both straight edge and serrated knives. I bought mine on Amazon.com and for a very reasonable price and sharpened my serrated knives and result was better than expected. I figured that if it did not work, I was no different than before I started. Now, I am much better off and get a nice smooth cut with these knives. They actually perform better than new.

Don't cut your self. I always touch my self on the finger to feel the blade. Didn't realize how sharp they were and and cut myself with hardly any pressure at all.

Presto 08800 EverSharp Electric Knife Sharpener - $25.99 - with Prime it ships for free in 2 days. It received a rating of 4.4 out of 5 with 1330 reviews.

Ed

Ed that is the exact same knife sharpener I use and it works really well but I did not know it can sharpen serrated knives.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: sliding_billy on March 16, 2014, 10:36:41 AM
For steak, I like serrated (for bite size pieced that is).  For any real cutting (slicing brisket for example), I use straight edge.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: RAD on March 16, 2014, 10:58:54 AM
I got one of theses at Ace awhile back and it really works for me. I didn't know it works on serrated as well

http://www.amazon.com/AccuSharp-1-001-Knife-Sharpener/dp/B00004VWKQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1394980488&sr=8-5&keywords=knife+sharpener

Anyone try it?
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: veryolddog on March 16, 2014, 11:11:25 AM
Before you throw away or not use those serrated knives, you might want to look at having them sharpened or purchase a sharpener that does both straight edge and serrated knives. I bought mine on Amazon.com and for a very reasonable price and sharpened my serrated knives and result was better than expected. I figured that if it did not work, I was no different than before I started. Now, I am much better off and get a nice smooth cut with these knives. They actually perform better than new.

Don't cut your self. I always touch my self on the finger to feel the blade. Didn't realize how sharp they were and and cut myself with hardly any pressure at all.

Presto 08800 EverSharp Electric Knife Sharpener - $25.99 - with Prime it ships for free in 2 days. It received a rating of 4.4 out of 5 with 1330 reviews.

Ed

Ed that is the exact same knife sharpener I use and it works really well but I did not know it can sharpen serrated knives.

Read the description on Amazon and reviews plus direction book.  Works for me.

Ed
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: muebe on March 16, 2014, 12:07:43 PM
Before you throw away or not use those serrated knives, you might want to look at having them sharpened or purchase a sharpener that does both straight edge and serrated knives. I bought mine on Amazon.com and for a very reasonable price and sharpened my serrated knives and result was better than expected. I figured that if it did not work, I was no different than before I started. Now, I am much better off and get a nice smooth cut with these knives. They actually perform better than new.

Don't cut your self. I always touch my self on the finger to feel the blade. Didn't realize how sharp they were and and cut myself with hardly any pressure at all.

Presto 08800 EverSharp Electric Knife Sharpener - $25.99 - with Prime it ships for free in 2 days. It received a rating of 4.4 out of 5 with 1330 reviews.

Ed

Ed that is the exact same knife sharpener I use and it works really well but I did not know it can sharpen serrated knives.

Read the description on Amazon and reviews plus direction book.  Works for me.

Ed

Cool thanks.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: africanmeat on March 16, 2014, 02:33:07 PM
I don't care , when i do a steak i cut it with a fork. ;)
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: deestafford on March 16, 2014, 09:26:37 PM
Cabela's opens it new store here (the only one in GA) Thursday morning and they carry the Worx knife sharpener.  I've look at its Orion (or something like that) model on YouTube and it seems to be a great one.  I'm thinking about getting it.  It's around $140 and you can sharpen just about everything with it.  Dee
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Post by: teesquare on March 16, 2014, 10:15:59 PM
I think that part of the equation in selecting a sharpening system is:

1. Japanese blades or Euro style?  Each have a different angle for sharpening. Choosing the sarong angle for your blade will - at best make it harder to sharpen - or remove so much metal to correct - that it reduces the life of the knife.

2. Cost of the knives you plan on sharpening. If you knives are moderately priced knives - then there is not so much risk. If your knives are very high quality, and thus - high in cost...I would not trust them to affixed angle electric sharpener. There are too many good professional sharpening services available. They are not expensive - and there is typically a guarantee of quality work by the sharpening service.

3. If you REALLY want to sharpen knives on your own as part of the craft of cooking and - if the lives are fairly pricey ones -  you may want to consider the Wicked Edge system, or a V-Sharp Classic III - or KME - or even an Apex system. These are all adjustable angle, repeatable process manual sharpeners that can create "shaving sharp" blades. Of course - they depend on you to read, practice and gain skill. But they do simplify and accurize the task .

Really - there may not be one "best" answer.  You may have knives that you sharpen on an electric. And - you may have some that you have a professional sharpen for you ( Williams-Sonoma stores always have a service  for this.)
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: Ka Honu on March 17, 2014, 02:23:52 AM
... Choosing the sarong angle for your blade will - at best make it harder to sharpen - or remove so much metal to correct - that it reduces the life of the knife.

I've always found that the sarong angle is important but must be considered in conjunction with the quality of the sarong filling. Given those variables, the blade angle tends to take care of itself.
Title: Re: Serrated or straight edge steak knives?
Post by: Hub on March 17, 2014, 02:05:37 PM
Got rid of serrated ones. Straight edge cuts better and can always be touched up with a steel.

True, but:  A really good (read that moderately expensive) serrated steak knife will not become dull from contact with the plate or other cutting surface like a straight edge knife will.  It is the cheap ones that tear meat.  I have both kinds and appreciate them for what they are.

Hub