Let's Talk BBQ
FORUM SPONSORS => Pit Barrel Cooker Co. => Topic started by: Pit Barrel Cooker Co. on January 26, 2013, 05:28:26 PM
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It has been brought to my attention that many of you have concerns about using lighter fluid, I will tell you if you follow the instructions and wait 20 minutes you would never even know that you used it. No smell, no weird flavor... However, there are different ways to light it. One being a chimney!
Q: Do I have to use lighter fluid?
A: No, although we recommend lighter fluid you can also use a chimney. Fill the coal basket level with Kingsford Original Briquets take 1/4 of them out and place in a chimney, light and wait approximately 20 min, pour lit coals from chimney on top of the remaining coals in the coal basket in your PBC, hang your meat, sit back and relax!
We are also doing a video that will include some different lighting options that should be out by mid next week. Thanks again!! Amber
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I'll be the first to comment on this. I've been using a tad more fluid than Noah does in the video and I don't have a problem with tasting or smelling fluid on the furnish product.
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I have to disagree, sorry I used less than what was in the video waited 20 min. but still could taste and smell the so called odorless starter. I remember years back my dad started using one of those electric heating irons to start the grill. Think I am going to look into that.
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Some people are more sensitive to certain things than others. A chimney starter and a paraffin cube underneath might be a great way to go for those who do not care to use lighter fluid.
Correct me if I am wrong but I believe the main thing in lighting the coals is to make sure the entire top of the coals are to be fully lit before the food is placed in and the lid goes on...this way the pit comes up to the ideal cooking temperature it was designed for!!
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Bottom line: Light the coals however you want, but you need to have the top layer red hot and ashed over when you hang the carnage.
John
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This is turning into Lighterfluidgate.......does that make Smoochy Deep Throat ;)
Maybe we need Dr. Phil to mediate.....
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Be careful what you wish for!!! :D
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" It is OK to use lighter fluid in the PBC, just wait 20 minutes!!"
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"Of course a chimney starter with 1/4 of the coals from the PBC charcoal basket will also work"
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"If you guys at LTBBQ don't settle this lighter fluid controversy, Me and Oprah are gonna start talking. Right Girlfriend?? Hey, that Smokeasaurus guy is kinda good looking, if you like the manly,rugged outdoor type. Too bad he plays with a stuffed frog and thinks its alive, right Girlfriend!!"
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Nicely done
;D ;D ;D
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Nicely done
;D ;D ;D
Darn good thing we don't take this BBQ/Outdoor cooking thing to seriously....... ;D :D ;D ;)
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How about Matchlight?
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How about Matchlight?
OK, we've got to draw the line there. I would use that even if I were an arsonist. :-P
John
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You probably could use a layer of matchlight on top of regular Kingsford but if that is the case, just use the lighter fluid!!
I think the chimney starter is the cleanest way, but using the lighter fluid is just so much fun and we have not experienced that fluid flavor that we can all agree is not too tasty!!
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FIRE!! FIRE!! FIRE!!
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I've never tasted the lighter fluid in a couple dozen cooks. I'm sure not a supertaster, just an average guy. But, to me this works perfectly and the 20 minutes is spot on for the charcoal to be ready.
David
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FIRE!! FIRE!! FIRE!!
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Now that's a fire!
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I've never tasted the lighter fluid in a couple dozen cooks. I'm sure not a supertaster, just an average guy. But, to me this works perfectly and the 20 minutes is spot on for the charcoal to be ready.
David
Roger all of that!
John
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When Smokey the Bear sees a fire he....
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I've never tasted the lighter fluid in a couple dozen cooks. I'm sure not a supertaster, just an average guy. But, to me this works perfectly and the 20 minutes is spot on for the charcoal to be ready.
David
Come to my house during the winter, yes we northerners still cook outside in the winter. 40 below sometimes even. Outside temps have a lot to do with how long your coals will be ready. Your 20 min. turned into 45 minutes for me the other night at -34 degrees. Elevation and outside temps have a lot to do with just how much heat your going to get out of these things. The hotter they burn the cleaner they will burn.
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Hey - you guys look over the Kingsford site - and their recommendations for using rolled up newspaper under the chimney....And tell me what you think. I have been usung that - but am open to other ideas.
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When I'm using charwood (I don't use briquettes), I start it in a chimney with a wad of newspaper under it...
Lighter fluid -- to me -- is just nasty and it gives an off flavor to the food.
You might as well start the charcoal with gasoline or napalm.
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I've never tasted the lighter fluid in a couple dozen cooks. I'm sure not a supertaster, just an average guy. But, to me this works perfectly and the 20 minutes is spot on for the charcoal to be ready.
David
Come to my house during the winter, yes we northerners still cook outside in the winter. 40 below sometimes even. Outside temps have a lot to do with how long your coals will be ready. Your 20 min. turned into 45 minutes for me the other night at -34 degrees. Elevation and outside temps have a lot to do with just how much heat your going to get out of these things. The hotter they burn the cleaner they will burn.
I'm in Minnesota - gets a bit chilly here too... ;) I cook outside all year, and yeah times do get a bit extended when temps drop below 0. But for the most part I have had pretty reliable success with my PBC (I do allow extra time if needed and agree with you re: hotter is cleaner.) Looking for a heat wave tomorrow - up to 19* - planning pulled pork and chicken halves in the PBC. Might wear shorts!
Cheers,
David
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Take pictures.
Of your cooks that is not your shorts ;) ;D
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Will do - have posted some here and many more on another forum. And no shorts shots!
David
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A recent shot of some of my cookers on the deck (before shoveling a path to them...)
David
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I have not had lighter fluid flavor issues with my PBC cooks ;)
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Will do - have posted some here and many more on another forum. And no shorts shots!
David
Their are other forums? ;)
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Will do - have posted some here and many more on another forum. And no shorts shots!
David
Their are other forums? ;)
lol ;D... ok I DO hang out on the Char Broil forum. I'm not a big forum / social media guy. For a long time it was only the CB forum. Then, T2 convinced me to come over here. I spend most of my time here, but still drop by the old place once in a while. Still some good folks that have not found their way over here...
Cheers,
David
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Will do - have posted some here and many more on another forum. And no shorts shots!
David
Their are other forums? ;)
lol ;D... ok I DO hang out on the Char Broil forum. I'm not a big forum / social media guy. For a long time it was only the CB forum. Then, T2 convinced me to come over here. I spend most of my time here, but still drop by the old place once in a while. Still some good folks that have not found their way over here...
Cheers,
David
That T2 can be persistent. He plied me with money, rubs, and a player to be named later.
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Will do - have posted some here and many more on another forum. And no shorts shots!
David
Their are other forums? ;)
lol ;D... ok I DO hang out on the Char Broil forum. I'm not a big forum / social media guy. For a long time it was only the CB forum. Then, T2 convinced me to come over here. I spend most of my time here, but still drop by the old place once in a while. Still some good folks that have not found their way over here...
Cheers,
David
That T2 can be persistent. He plied me with money, rubs, and a player to be named later.
Money???? :o :o :o AND a player???? :o :o :o All I got was some dust.... :-[
Oh well - worked out for the best. Never would have found the PBC or met all of you if I didn't come over here... ;)
David
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Money? AND a player? All I got was some dust....
Oh well - worked out for the best. Never would have found the PBC or met all of you if I didn't come over here...
David
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All good things come to those that recruit more LTBBQ members David....... :D :D :D
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Money? AND a player? All I got was some dust....
Oh well - worked out for the best. Never would have found the PBC or met all of you if I didn't come over here...
David
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All good things come to those that recruit more LTBBQ members David....... :D :D :D
Got you!
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Newspaper under the chimney? What a mess! ::) Two Weber starter nuggets under the the tube, will have half a load of brics blazing in five minutes! Just try not to put a couple of flamers on your foot, during the transfer! ;D ;)
OD
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Newspaper under the chimney? What a mess! ::) Two Weber starter nuggets under the the tube, will have half a load of brics blazing in five minutes! Just try not to put a couple of flamers on your foot, during the transfer! ;D ;)
OD
I use the ash catcher from the fat boy. No fuss, no mess :)
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I wad paper beneath the chimney starter, turn it over and put some vegetable cooking oil on the paper. then turn back over and put the coals into the chimney. It makes the paper burn longer to start the coals and there is no taste or smell.
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Newspaper under the chimney? What a mess! ::) Two Weber starter nuggets under the the tube, will have half a load of brics blazing in five minutes! Just try not to put a couple of flamers on your foot, during the transfer! ;D ;)
OD
I use the ash catcher from the fat boy. No fuss, no mess :)
I think you are on to something that has vexed me.....lighting my chimney on my wood deck when the grill is already going. What is a fat boy? In your opinion, could I use it safely on my wood deck without scorching it?
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Newspaper under the chimney? What a mess! ::) Two Weber starter nuggets under the the tube, will have half a load of brics blazing in five minutes! Just try not to put a couple of flamers on your foot, during the transfer! ;D ;)
OD
I use the ash catcher from the fat boy. No fuss, no mess :)
I think you are on to something that has vexed me.....lighting my chimney on my wood deck when the grill is already going. What is a fat boy? In your opinion, could I use it safely on my wood deck without scorching it?
1. The fat boy is what we call the Char-Broil Double Chef Smoker. Unfortunately, it isn’t available commercially anymore. Too, bad. It’s a pretty good smoker.
2. I cannot give you advice on what you can and can’t do on a wood deck. I have concrete slabs and from what I’ve seen lately on here is that the wood decks burn. Use a couple of concrete squares that you can get from HD or Lowes under anything with high heat to protect your deck.
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I would recommend looking at the manufacturer of the charcoal chimney's website for cautions and usage suggestions.
For what it's worth....I would not ude it directly on anything other than a steel or concrete surface. You can purchase a "grill mat" that is made of a fiber cement material that is safe to light your chimneys on, or use your PBC on. I have a wood/plastic composite deck - and the mat works great for me.
Here is an Amazon link for one, tho I think they are sold at Lowe's, Home Depot, and Menard's:
http://www.amazon.com/DiversiTech-GP-42-C-Original-Grill-Pad/dp/B0001MQHZY
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I would recommend looking at the manufacturer of the charcoal chimney's website for cautions and usage suggestions.
For what it's worth....I would not ude it directly on anything other than a steel or concrete surface. You can purchase a "grill mat" that is made of a fiber cement material that is safe to light your chimneys on, or use your PBC on. I have a wood/plastic composite deck - and the mat works great for me.
Here is an Amazon link for one, tho I think they are sold at Lowe's, Home Depot, and Menard's:
http://www.amazon.com/DiversiTech-GP-42-C-Original-Grill-Pad/dp/B0001MQHZY
I have that mat on my composite deck. Are you saying you light a chimney right on the mat?
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Yep...I have been doing just that. Be certain we are both on the same wavelength. The mat I am using is heavy, and kind of brittle - so it stays in place. But it can really take the heat.
I have a composite deck also. :)
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Yep...I have been doing just that. Be certain we are both on the same wavelength. The mat I am using is heavy, and kind of brittle - so it stays in place. But it can really take the heat.
I have a composite deck also. :)
We are on the same page. I have the exact same mat from amazon. However, since I burnt my deck once already, I am gun shy. I may just break down and buy a little smokey joe and place my chimney on that.
My wife is a little particular about what is on the deck ;)
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my method
works great in a wind
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Since my other charcoaler is a Weber Performer with a built-in propane lighting system I haven't "lit" charcoal in years. When I got my new PBC I looked around for my chimney but couldn't find it. So, I bit the bullet and bought a can of Kingsford charcoal lighter at the grocery store and lit the fire like Noah shows in the video. I was dreading the "petroleum" flavor I remembered from years ago but it didn't happen!
Maybe it is the Kingsford brand fluid? It seems to have a lower octane and flash point, too. I didn't get a "WHOOOOOOM - BANG" when I dropped the match in. In fact it took a couple of matches to get the flames working.
I've used about half the can and done several cooks now and I think I'll stick with the fluid. I can't smell it after about five minutes of burn and nothing I've cooked has shown any traces of fumes.
Hub
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Hub, I had the same concerns and same experience. I've done dozens of cooks in my PBC using Kingsford charcoal and lighter fluid per Noah's instructions. I have only tasted the charcoal flavor - nothing else. I suspect that any fluid residues are long burned off after the 20 minute mark. One of my brothers is a died in the wool lump charcoal guy and frequently tells me how horrible briquettes are (although since he doesn't use them, not sure how he would know ;) ;D ) I tell him that I must not have a sophisticated nose or taster like him, and to me there is no off-putting flavor. And, at least to me, there is not.
David
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Since my other charcoaler is a Weber Performer with a built-in propane lighting system I haven't "lit" charcoal in years. When I got my new PBC I looked around for my chimney but couldn't find it. So, I bit the bullet and bought a can of Kingsford charcoal lighter at the grocery store and lit the fire like Noah shows in the video. I was dreading the "petroleum" flavor I remembered from years ago but it didn't happen!
Maybe it is the Kingsford brand fluid? It seems to have a lower octane and flash point, too. I didn't get a "WHOOOOOOM - BANG" when I dropped the match in. In fact it took a couple of matches to get the flames working.
I've used about half the can and done several cooks now and I think I'll stick with the fluid. I can't smell it after about five minutes of burn and nothing I've cooked has shown any traces of fumes.
Hub
Ditto! I just use my chimney starter on the UDS, cause I'll be cooking under 275. :P
OD
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