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FORUM SPONSORS => Pit Barrel Cooker Co. => Topic started by: 1Bigg_ER on September 14, 2014, 03:40:31 PM
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Anybody else seeing this on the PBC? Mine stays under cover when not in use
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Ya mines been doing that also and I keep mine in my garage out of the elements. The sides and top are not to bad but its the bottom that has me concerned. I empty it of coals as soon as possible so it must be the heat doing this.
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Well this is not good.
I hope the PBC folks see this thread and let us know what is what.
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I think it is a function of the type of steel that barrels are made of x the corrosive force of heating/cooling.
We have seen this ...and worse on various brands of gas, and charcoal grills. Unless a grill is made of high grade stainless - I usually consider it just a yearly maintenance issue. I chuck up a wire brush in a drill - and knock off any rust - then spray paint with a high temp grill paint such as one from Rustoleum.
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Hmmmm....have to go look at mine,may try oiling,ie pork fat?
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I haven't looked at the bottom.
Might have to look into what Tee said.
Would a pizza Stone under the charcoal basket make any difference?
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I think it is a function of the type of steel that barrels are made of x the corrosive force of heating/cooling.
We have seen this ...and worse on various brands of gas, and charcoal grills. Unless a grill is made of high grade stainless - I usually consider it just a yearly maintenance issue. I chuck up a wire brush in a drill - and knock off any rust - then spray paint with a high temp grill paint such as one from Rustoleum.
Yup that was my thought also. I need to go to town Tuesday and the paint was already on my list of things to pick up. Just a little maintenance in the fall should help.
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I haven't looked at the bottom.
Might have to look into what Tee said.
Would a pizza Stone under the charcoal basket make any difference?
I don't think that would make a difference - but it would make for a cool experiment.....
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Thanks for posting. I better check mine tomorrow.
Art
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my lid is doing the same thing. I need to check the bottom though. I am not to worried about it. It takes a long time for metal to rust threw.
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That is just surface rust. Some high temp paint will fix that problem. It is when the rust is causing surface pitting that will be cause for concern.
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All paint on pits developes problems from differential expansion.
Simply oil & let season.
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Makes sense. I have never dealt with drum cookers before.
Oil and season it is.
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll watch for this on mine and do the recommended maintenance and seasoning. ;)
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I didn't notice but mine is rusting also, I have stored it inside and it has never seen any rain. Maybe being coated with a baked-on porcelain enamel like weber would be a better option then powder coating.
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Good to go, still lots left in the can.
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good thread,Im going to lard mine and bake eventually.
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I didn't notice but mine is rusting also, I have stored it inside and it has never seen any rain. Maybe being coated with a baked-on porcelain enamel like weber would be a better option then powder coating.
It would...But it would drive the price of the PBS to well over $1000 in my estimation. ;D
A bit of elbow grease - a wire brush - and a little Rustoleum High Temp grill paint and - it will be new again.
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good thread,Im going to lard mine and bake eventually.
Peanut oil works very well for that purpose. Very little smoke comes from it when heated to high temps.
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I love peanut oil for seasoning cast iron. Should work well here, then apply the high heat paint.
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Yeah, I've been seeing the exact same thing. Was going to wait until the fall (so I guess I should get busy now), wire brush and rustoleum.
I was keeping mine covered, but there was always water sitting in the lid, whether I covered or not, but I don't bother now.
So, you guys are talking about seasoning the outside of the PBC, like we would season the inside of other cookers?
Grossie
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I gave mine a good wire brushing before painting. Before my next couple of cooks in the PBC I am going to rub the outside bottom down with peanut oil. I figure why waist good charcoal just to season it when it can be done while your cooking.
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The only thing about putting oil on the outside of your pit is the potential of it remaining a little sticky. Even a fortheating Iit thoroughly some oils will never dry out completely...which is how they provide a barrier against moisture. But if you live in an area where bugs...dirt...pollen can"decorate" your pit.....you may want to opt for the Rustoleum .
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Im only doing the outside bottom. With the extreme heat produced from the charcoal there will be nothing stuck to it and something manages to stick to it after that the next cook will get rid of it
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Yep...the bottom will be a good place to try out oiling the exterior. Let us know how it works out.
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Been watching this thread, kinda knowing where it's going. CharBroil's Red grill is known for rusty admitters and this reminded me of those threads.
One question though, couldn't sand on the bottom stop a lot of the rust issue n the lower panel? I mean it would take the heat away from the panel and that should help from rust forming right?
Just asking and wishing I had a PBC :( :(
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When I got my PBC I seasoned the inside very well. If you look inside of mine all your going to see is a lot of build up from the smoke. On the bottom I use heavy duty tin foil and remove any left over ash as it is known to help wear out the bottom. Before putting it away I do the bongo thing upside down to get rid of any left over ash. Putting sand in on the bottom might help but its something you would have to do every cook if you follow my clean up. I think by maybe doing a good wire brushing a couple of times a year will reduce the rust problem.
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I use triple layers of HD foil under the basket for easy cleaning.
I was thinking pizza stone would act as the sand idea, only a little less messy.
But nothing ever lasts forever. That's why we should all buy a second PBC and keep it in the garage just in case......LOL!
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One question though, couldn't sand on the bottom stop a lot of the rust issue n the lower panel? I mean it would take the heat away from the panel and that should help from rust forming right?
Tommy...a couple of thoughts I had about this.
"Sand" is not all created equal. Some is fairly pure silica, which is used in glass making, and would be a good insulator. And - how well is the sand dried first? If you buy play-sand at HD or Lowe's - it can be pretty wet....
The effect that causes the rust is a function of the heating and cooling - and the effect of moisture... So, if you have any available moisture in the air as humidity - and you have a very hot surface - as the steel cools - the moisture in the air can condense on the surface of the metal - which may have been microscopically exposed via the heating/cooling.
So - if I am thinking correctly here - ( and that is not a guarantee... ;D ) adding sand may actually accelerate surface corrosion.
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How about a stainless steel one, sure would be nice ;)
This was made special for Cowgirl by Big Poppa Smokers so don't go looking for one as I believe its one of a kind. Maybe the good folks at PBC can make one and raffle it off. I would buy a few tickets 8)
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Hey Everyone, hope you are all well! Fortunately we make ourselves available at anytime, if you have any issues we will take care of you. Our direct line is on every PBC and even though I try to keep up with every post on the thread I get busy and can't always respond in time. Don't hesitate to call. Thank you! PBC Co. - Amber
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I finally checked out the bottom of my PBC. It has been used a fair amount. Mine is mounted on a dolly that has a hole cut in the dolly underneath the bottom for good air circulation. The bottom of mine looks like the day it arrived. No rust or hint of rust. Guess I am lucky on this one.
Art
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I'm just reading this thread ... Besides the suggestions already provided - please consider these :
1. Use a sheet of HD foil under the charcoal basket
2. Peanut oil has a high temp smoke point , you may try to season internal seams / bottom safely with peanut oil
3. For external metal I recommend : "Corrosion X" spray which is perhaps the #1 rated product to stop rust from forming
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I bought a stainless steel pizza pan that the basket sits on.
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I'm just reading this thread ... Besides the suggestions already provided - please consider these :
1. Use a sheet of HD foil under the charcoal basket
2. Peanut oil has a high temp smoke point , you may try to season internal seams / bottom safely with peanut oil
3. For external metal I recommend : "Corrosion X" spray which is perhaps the #1 rated product to stop rust from forming
I have used this for water contact items...incredible. BUT...I am not sure of its food safety when used on a cooker. ( I also have never subjected it to heat....) I would strongly urge anyone using this product to be careful to keep it only on the outside of the pit until you have clarified with the manufacturer that it is safe to use or this application.
I just want us all to help keep one another safe! ;)
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Well, DANG! Cover (plastic garbage bag) was frozen to the PBC lid when I went to do some wings for hors d'oeuvres tonight. I put the lid on it while it was coming up to temperature and lifted until the ice melted and the lid dropped into place. Now I smell like smoke.
Then---There were RUST spots on the lid. DANG! Wire brush and high temperature paint in the forecast. Although I doubt that it's of any importance. But it bugs me and I can't ignore it.
Oh well, I've been thinking of making a few modifications. Stand by for details Tommy.
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Pmillen - We recommend a cover like the one we sell on our website, a plastic bag mixed with cold weather will not be a good combo. Amber - PBC CO.