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Title: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: CaptJack on August 29, 2013, 02:04:19 PM
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Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: teesquare on August 29, 2013, 02:16:03 PM
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Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: sliding_billy on August 29, 2013, 02:21:13 PM
Sad news for the hunters, but worse news for the elk.
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: drholly on August 29, 2013, 02:32:19 PM
And the carp...  ;D
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: teesquare on August 29, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
this may be in the area of Ed's ranch?

Yeah...I talked to Ed about it yesterday - and he confirmed. I am NOT happy about this for sure. Not from a selfish standpoint. It is a shame to see such magnificent animals suffer like tis.

A hunter typically dispatches one animal quickly, and the meat and hides are used. This is just terrible news for elk hunters and nature loving folks of all kinds....
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: veryolddog on August 29, 2013, 03:36:04 PM
This was headline news in the Albuquerque Journal. This "sickness" started way up north in Montana and spread South all the way through the Rockies to Northern New Mexico. Thousands of elk effected. It appears to be some kind of virus but it does not seem to have any impact on human beings.

They are trying to determine what this is. And, if I could be on the Ranch in November, I would obviously see the impact if this continues to spread as elk move from the mountains to the lower grass areas to have food and shelter. Could be a bad winter for the elk and a lot of carcasses found on the ground. Well, the scavengers will have a field day but it also could effect them.

This is just another way that Nature provides for Natural Selection. What this might teach us is that we should allow more licenses for hunting and extend the season so the herds can be culled. Elk are fairly prolific and generally have a good survival rate. This may rethink the policy on males only and open this up to the female population.

Actually, this is in the area of my ranch, although I am further North. It's interesting that they say something about the lack of water. I know that there is water in my area, but if this is transmitted by bug bites......ummmmmm?

Such is life.

Ed

Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: Jaxon on August 29, 2013, 03:50:08 PM
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Or as we say here in Georgia...
CRRRAAAPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: veryolddog on August 29, 2013, 05:17:10 PM
I thought that they say "DANG"!

Ed
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: LostArrow on August 29, 2013, 05:55:53 PM
Very common in the southern deer population.
Have a bad year every 4-5 years

http://www.mdwfp.com/wildlife-hunting/deer-program/diseases-and-abnormalities/hemorrahagic-disease.aspx?alttemplate=mobileSubcategory
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: pz on August 30, 2013, 01:08:15 AM
The truly frightening thought is that similar infections can occur in any species, including humans.  Recall the Zaire ebola virus?  Transmission was by contaminated needles and close body contact (fluids) with a fatality rate of up to 90%.  Imagine if that virus mutated to a form that was transmissible by respiratory droplet, like we see with the common cold.

Fatality rates like that means that out of every 10 people that contracted the virus, 9 would die.  Imagine the consequence to the human population worldwide were such a mutation to occur.

Recall the movie The Andromeda Strain?  That is unfortunately not too far from the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: sad news for the elk hunters
Post by: fishingbouchman on August 30, 2013, 06:35:01 AM
thats no good. 

We have a lot around here with hoof rot.  sad seeing the elk with that.