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Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #-1 on: January 27, 2015, 11:36:35 AM »
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I get hungry for some fried cornmeal mush and when I fix some and post here someone always asks what mush is. Grits are pretty widely known especially in the south; from the east coast to Texas. If you were born or lived there you know what grits are.

Grits, polenta and mush are made from boiling cornmeal in water in their simplest form. Grits can be made from yellow or white cornmeal, fine ground or coarse stone ground. Polenta; I have only seen it made with yellow cornmeal but can be fine ground or coarse stone ground.

Cornmeal mush I have only seen it made with yellow cornmeal and any grind. It is made from cooking the cornmeal and water down pretty thick then pouring in a loaf pan and let set up in the fridge. It is then sliced a thickness you like and fried in oil, butter or bacon grease. It is usually eaten for breakfast.

Cornmeal mush I think came from the Pennsylvania Dutch and the Amish. It is mostly known in the mid-west. I grew up having mush a lot for breakfast, usually with bacon and eggs. We always asked Mom to fry it crisp. To get it crisp you have to cut it just ¼ inch thick and takes about 10 minutes on each side on medium heat. I like to fry it in bacon grease and then just add salt and pepper; some like it with maple syrup and I do have it that way at times.

I never had grits until I was in Turkey with the USAF. I was on a Turkish AFB with a small detachment of about 70 men. Our cook was from Texas and he fixed grits about every morning and usually he had ham and red eye gravy once a week. Simple red eye gravy is to just pour in some black coffee after frying ham and scraping up all the brown bits. You then have it over the ham and the grits. That is a taste treat.

Polenta is Italian and tastes the same as grits. They didn’t grow corn there until they imported it from the Americas. They use it in many different dishes and for any meal. If you search Italian polenta recipes they will call for a batch of soft polenta or a batch of hard. The hard polenta is made the same way as mush.

I think that grits are still mostly a breakfast item here but you are seeing more different recipes in the past 10 years. Shrimp and grits is a popular one and I have made shrimp and sausage over grits. Lately I have seen some different baked grits recipes too. There are recipes to cook some grits and then pour on a sheet pan and in the fridge to set up. You then slice in squares and fry like I do the mush. I like to use stone ground grits and prefer white if just a breakfast side; I like the yellow if having something over them. Sometimes I will use milk in place of water for creamier grits and like adding cheese too.

This is just my thoughts on the subject and wanted to let all know what cornmeal mush is and whether you have grits or polenta; it’s the same dang thing! If any of you have some different grit recipes please share them.

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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« on: January 27, 2015, 11:43:59 AM »
Great history - thanks, Don!
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 12:46:59 PM »
I have a friend who wouldn't dream of ever eating grits and who would quickly sneer at mush.  Polenta, on the other hand, is one of his favorite sides.  I haven't bothered to explain the astounding commonalities of the three to him for fear of inducing a myocardial infarction or at least a gas attack  ::)

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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 01:02:02 PM »
I have a friend who wouldn't dream of ever eating grits and who would quickly sneer at mush.  Polenta, on the other hand, is one of his favorite sides.  I haven't bothered to explain the astounding commonalities of the three to him for fear of inducing a myocardial infarction or at least a gas attack  ::)

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Being an Italian from So. Philly, it's probably no surprise that I don't eat grits.  And, based on Hub's comment, it would seem that I am being (at the very least) stubborn.  But, we never had polenta when I was growing up either, so I do feel justified.  Come to think of it, we never had risotto either, any white sauces, etc. etc.

And this with both of grandparents coming straight off the boat from Abrruzi!!





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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 01:03:19 PM »
My Romanian grandma would cook her mush and wipe the bowl with bacon grease and a layer of mush and then a thick layer of brick cheese greate, them mush and so on till big bowl was full then fried bacon on top and inbetween layers, served with a sour soup, lettuce soup. My brother and I are the only ones that make it any  more. It's called Mumiliga and it's fabulous.
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 06:55:58 PM »
I love my grits, the keep me happy and off the psych meds.  :P
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 07:13:22 PM »
My Romanian grandma would cook her mush and wipe the bowl with bacon grease and a layer of mush and then a thick layer of brick cheese greate, them mush and so on till big bowl was full then fried bacon on top and inbetween layers, served with a sour soup, lettuce soup. My brother and I are the only ones that make it any  more. It's called Mumiliga and it's fabulous.
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 09:09:15 PM »
I spent a summer with my uncle when I was a kid and he had a pig farm. We got up every morning and had Mush, brown sugar and butter. Never changed that entire summer cause that's what you eat when your a pig farmer.  I sure was glad to get home and have cheerio's or Grape nuts and some powdered milk ;)

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 09:59:12 PM »
I spent a summer with my uncle when I was a kid and he had a pig farm. We got up every morning and had Mush, brown sugar and butter. Never changed that entire summer cause that's what you eat when your a pig farmer.  I sure was glad to get home and have cheerio's or Grape nuts and some powdered milk ;)
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 11:37:07 PM »
I forgot about the powdered milk... oh man....  ??? ::) :o ;D ;D
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2015, 12:12:01 AM »
As I understand it, grits and masa harina are made from nixmatalized corn (hominy) while polenta and mush are made from "plain" cornmeal (albeit from different kinds of corn). They are still all similar enough that it's pretty funny when someone like Hub's friend "sneers" at one and loves the others.
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2015, 01:00:05 PM »
I love my grits, the keep me happy and off the psych meds.  :P

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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 01:57:27 PM »
I have a friend who wouldn't dream of ever eating grits and who would quickly sneer at mush.  Polenta, on the other hand, is one of his favorite sides.  I haven't bothered to explain the astounding commonalities of the three to him for fear of inducing a myocardial infarction or at least a gas attack  ::)

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Being an Italian from So. Philly, it's probably no surprise that I don't eat grits.  And, based on Hub's comment, it would seem that I am being (at the very least) stubborn.  But, we never had polenta when I was growing up either, so I do feel justified.  Come to think of it, we never had risotto either, any white sauces, etc. etc.

And this with both of grandparents coming straight off the boat from Abrruzi!!





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Grandmom was off the boat, any family gathering, without fail we had hard polenta topped with red sauce and grated parm.  Never cared for any cream sauces, but I learned to make a good risotto so I am into that.  One chef taught me out to make true alfredo without cream, just egg, pasta water, and cheese.  Best alfredo, I ever had, but I am with you generally never a white sauce.
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 03:16:29 PM »
I have a friend who wouldn't dream of ever eating grits and who would quickly sneer at mush.  Polenta, on the other hand, is one of his favorite sides.  I haven't bothered to explain the astounding commonalities of the three to him for fear of inducing a myocardial infarction or at least a gas attack  ::)

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Being an Italian from So. Philly, it's probably no surprise that I don't eat grits.  And, based on Hub's comment, it would seem that I am being (at the very least) stubborn.  But, we never had polenta when I was growing up either, so I do feel justified.  Come to think of it, we never had risotto either, any white sauces, etc. etc.

And this with both of grandparents coming straight off the boat from Abrruzi!!





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Grandmom was off the boat, any family gathering, without fail we had hard polenta topped with red sauce and grated parm.  Never cared for any cream sauces, but I learned to make a good risotto so I am into that.  One chef taught me out to make true alfredo without cream, just egg, pasta water, and cheese.  Best alfredo, I ever had, but I am with you generally never a white sauce.
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Re: Grits or polenta or mush?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 03:46:23 PM »
As I understand it, grits and masa harina are made from nixmatalized corn (hominy) while polenta and mush are made from "plain" cornmeal (albeit from different kinds of corn). They are still all similar enough that it's pretty funny when someone like Hub's friend "sneers" at one and loves the others.

Paul, I have often thought the same thing.

When I lived in NC I would often put a little sugar (or brown sugar) on top of my grits and would get some funny looks sometimes. Once I explained that I grew up eating fried cornmeal mush with maple syrup, then it seemed to make sense.


Oh, and YES!!!   I like both grits and mush with just a little butter salt & pepper too - I like them both ways. ;)
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