Let's Talk BBQ

Outdoor Cooking Equipment => PIZZA OVENS - Wood Fired => Topic started by: pz on December 15, 2013, 11:33:26 PM

Title: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: pz on December 15, 2013, 11:33:26 PM
I learned a different method of manipulating the dough on a pizza forum - it is called lamination.  We tried it today, and while it is more work, it makes for a different crust experience, and I have to agree.  Normally I like super thin crust because it results in the crispiest texture.  Lamination is exactly as the name indicates - the dough is rolled, then folded twice, then rolled again to create layers when baked, similar to what you would expect in a puff pastry.

The result is a crust that is really crisp on the bottom layer, the next layer up is still crisp, but less so, and so on for all 4 layers.  You get a thicker crust that is still marvelously crisp, chewy and tender at the same time.

here you can see the layered effect with air space between the lamina
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9UeBlzqRykc/Uq5zpfp7VcI/AAAAAAAAFfk/Mgfeb_HXgSY/w1362-h908-no/IMG_2924.JPG)

No, that's not a dirty crust - we sprinkled coarse thyme flavored salt crystals on the crust when we flipped it during parbaking
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0FIb9jhAUqY/Uq5z1lseObI/AAAAAAAAFgM/SKqbncXQLCU/w1362-h908-no/IMG_2949.JPG)

We also tried something else different - after the pie came out of the oven, we added Aerogarden basil (chiffonade), and finished with Manchego - resulting in the freshest basil flavor, and retaining all the sharpness of the cheese.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Mw0qzyeHi-c/Uq5zu3T8RQI/AAAAAAAAFf0/T2ZHONofwso/w1362-h908-no/IMG_2933.JPG)
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: muebe on December 15, 2013, 11:39:50 PM
Cool idea pz!

I imagine a cinnamon and sugar topping would make for a great dessert!
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: sliding_billy on December 16, 2013, 03:44:54 AM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: HighOnSmoke on December 16, 2013, 07:07:13 AM
Interesting technique and delicious looking pizza!
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: hikerman on December 16, 2013, 07:51:27 AM
Very nice pz! I use that method when making Chicago-style deepdish pizza. It is so much better than the "real" thing, in that it is not a glob of semi-cooked dough!  I think I got it from Cook's Illustrated.
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: fishingbouchman on December 16, 2013, 08:53:49 AM
oh man that all looks so good.  Plate me please.  I gota try that crust idea. 

You use have to roll it?  be hard to stretch by hand. 
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: Pam Gould on December 16, 2013, 09:15:01 AM
Cool idea pz!

I imagine a cinnamon and sugar topping would make for a great dessert!
Muebe..peanut butter and jelly is fabulous too. Also apple pie filling with a crunchy oatmeal topping and when it's done. drizzle some caramel ice cream topping on top.  Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི
Title: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: Pappymn on December 16, 2013, 10:01:29 AM
Great pics of the layers. Now I'm hungry for pizza
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: SmokinKat on December 16, 2013, 12:08:37 PM
Nice work, pz!!   That looks phenomenal-- I love that idea of crispy layers of crust!
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: pz on December 16, 2013, 02:01:03 PM
Thanks folks!

Good ideas on the dessert pizzas - the crisp yet tender crust would be perfect for that kind or pie


oh man that all looks so good.  Plate me please.  I gota try that crust idea. 

You use have to roll it?  be hard to stretch by hand.

Rolling is the key - once the dough ball is rolled to size, it is lightly dusted with flour and folded in half - the half is also lightly dusted and then folded into quarter, which is then rolled to size.  Purists will trim the edges using a pizza pan or some such round object so they get a perfectly round pizza.  We don't care about the appearance - we just like to use the entire dough
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: spuds on May 02, 2014, 12:31:07 PM
What a great idea,thanks!
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: TentHunteR on May 02, 2014, 06:21:24 PM
Excellent post PZ.  Next time I make Pizza, I am so doing this.


BTW that pizza looks freaking delicious!
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: teesquare on May 02, 2014, 07:20:57 PM
Wow!....Kinda like a "pizza phyllo" cdust...nice ;)
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on May 02, 2014, 07:37:06 PM
Cool idea pz!

I imagine a cinnamon and sugar topping would make for a great dessert!

Add some bananas and make a Bananas Foster Pizza.  ;)
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: Smokin Don on May 03, 2014, 12:39:07 AM
delicious looking pizza and crust!!! Makes me want to come have one with you!!! ::) Don
Title: Re: Different crust method - lamination
Post by: africanmeat on May 03, 2014, 06:56:32 AM
nice idea .
i will try it next time a do pizza .
thanks .