Thanks to Ed telling us about Old Country smokers and Jaxon's excellent videos, I pulled the trigger on a Old Country Wrangler. The Pecos is not available on-line anymore. I spoke to a very nice young lady at an Academy store in Katy, Texas and she measured the Wrangler for me and really helped me out. In fact, I got the Wrangler for 399.99 with 89.00 freight shipping to my door........just unheard of......once Eric comes by with the Yoder Abilene, I will be all set from here on out...