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Title: Why I am here...
Post by: muebe on May 12, 2016, 01:31:02 PM
A beloved forum member here(Smoke) wrote about an incident that happened on another forum that is a driving force why we as a group appreciate this forum. Many of us who started at this forum had really bad experiences at others and as a group wanted a change.

I wanted to start this thread so members can voice some of their personal experiences at other forums that may have left them with a sour taste in their mouth.

Now keep in mind it is best not to directly name the other forum or members for obvious reasons. There are always bad apples that spoil the bunch so I would never want to lump everyone in a forum membership into a bad light. Just keep in mind that the moderators here are the key reason that we have such a great group of members here and are not plagued with the problems that other forums experience.

Also there are two sides to every story obviously.

I think sharing some general stories not only is freeing to the soul but allows us to see behavior that happens and should not ever be acceptable.

I will start off with one experience of mine...

So I had been contacted by a forum admin via PM about a post of mine he had to edit. Seems I had a picture on the post of one of the rubs I used for the cook. I did not know that the forum had banned any pictures or reference to the brand rub I was using. But instead of handling it professionally the admin sends words in caps and a threat of the ban stick if it happens again. It obviously did not rub well with me(pun intended). I responded that I was not aware and that was that.

So time went by and I had posted several other cooks in between. Then I had a cook that used the same brand rub. When I listed the rub I used I did not put a picture or brand name of the rub. I simply put the style name of the rub. The post sat for about a month. People viewed and commented on it. No big deal.

Then someone posted on the thread asking what kind of rub it was. I responded to this member via PM(private message) explaining what the rub was and the story of why I could not post about it. I told the other member the threat of the ban stick and not to post about the rub or they could face retaliation.

Within an hour I get another message from this admin. Bold, caps, etc telling me that he deleted my thread for posting a reference of the rub and one more time and I will be banned. Well I was officially done. It appeared to me that the admin was reading my PM's. He denied it but I really believe he did.

I had sat there and watched this guy bully members. He would berate members right in their threads. Then his group of thugs(chosen members) would back him up and drive good members away. It reminded me of an elementary school playground bully.

So I posted a thread on how I had a disagreement with an admin and would be leaving the forum. I never said who or the details just that we did not agree and I was leaving. I did not want to just disappear like other members had. I had many friends on there and really wanted to say goodbye instead of just disappearing like many others had.

The thread took off of course. The admin's thugs were posting how they are glad I was leaving, or how I should not have posted it and just left. But there were many members who posted in the thread about the problems the admin created.

After the thread about how I was leaving took off I was personally contacted by the owner of the forum. He is a very good guy and tried to talk me into staying but I told him as long as that admin was in charge I could not stay. He had told me some personal things about the admin(excuses) but I advised him this guy was driving good people away.
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smokeasaurus on May 12, 2016, 01:51:05 PM
Dang, sorry to hear about that Muebe.

As a moderator here, whenever I move or change or delete a post, I always contact the member by pm to let him/her know I made a change and why I felt I had to do it.

I feel it is respectful and courteous to all involved.

I also send a bcc to the other mods so all can see the correspondence and if any feel I am out of whack, I can get feedback from them.

I was the first Global Moderator here at the forum but I just feel like I am member #33  :) :)
Title: Why I am here...
Post by: Pappymn on May 12, 2016, 02:16:53 PM
Despite the high fees. This place is pretty cool
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smokeasaurus on May 12, 2016, 02:45:55 PM
another problem with that particular kettle based forum was they had "clicks"   a guy would post a simple hamburger cook and he would get pages of praise while another member would post a super involved cook and get a reply or two. I hardly got any replies on my posts, but I wasn't there for the glory and the glamour. In fact in retrospect, I don't even know why I hung around there as long as I did..........
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Pappymn on May 12, 2016, 03:06:23 PM
In all seriousness, I was on another forum for awhile.  And met some great people and learned a lot.  A few little things like posting about a rub or product that was not allowed.  Stupid and annoying.  Then they threw some shade on my favorite member......see you later.  :o

And besides Tee made me an offer I couldn't refuse  ???
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smoker pete on May 12, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
I still clearly remember when you left that forum in question Mike. I also remember reading the many attacks directed at you on said forum and if memory serves me right ( I have sometimers! ... sometimes I remember ) I reached out to you to find out what had happened cause you were a very active member and everyone really learned a lot and benefited by your wisdom and cooks. Most of all I remember how the moderator attacked you personally on the forum and the ganging up by others was atrocious.

My situation occurred on a wood pellet smoking forum where I read many instances where members were often dumped on ... there was one rule - my way or the highway! ... Anyway the forum used to hold weekly cooking contests. People would post cooks with pictures, etc and the previous week's winner would pick the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place winners. Then you received $25/$10/$5 respectively to spend at the forum owner's online store.

Back then I actively posted everything and I always entered the weekly contests. Now a few bucks here and there don't buy you much so when I won a 1st/2nd/3rd now and then I decided to save up the cash codes until I could buy something of substance. Over time I saved up close to $150 and decided to cash in. Using my cash codes I spent my money and bought a bunch of rubs and spices at no cost to me.

Well I did receive the products I ordered but I was chastised for doing what I did. Apparently I was expected to buy items with money out of my pocket and not just use the cash codes. A big deal of it was made on the forum (my name was never mentioned but I knew who they were talking about) and I figured that was the end of it. Nope - I was locked out. My account was frozen and I was never able to login again - this was a few years ago. No skin off my backside. It's their loss.

So here I am at LTBBQ and happy!  :D  :D  8)  8)
Title: Why I am here...
Post by: Pappymn on May 12, 2016, 03:30:00 PM
I still clearly remember when you left that forum in question Mike. I also remember reading the many attacks directed at you on said forum and if memory serves me right ( I have sometimers! ... sometimes I remember ) I reached out to you to find out what had happened cause you were a very active member and everyone really learned a lot and benefited by your wisdom and cooks. Most of all I remember how the moderator attacked you personally on the forum and the ganging up by others was atrocious.

My situation occurred on a wood pellet smoking forum where I read many instances where members were often dumped on ... there was one rule - my way or the highway! ... Anyway the forum used to hold weekly cooking contests. People would post cooks with pictures, etc and the previous week's winner would pick the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place winners. Then you received $25/$10/$5 respectively to spend at the forum owner's online store.

Back then I actively posted everything and I always entered the weekly contests. Now a few bucks here and there don't buy you much so when I won a 1st/2nd/3rd now and then I decided to save up the cash codes until I could buy something of substance. Over time I saved up close to $150 and decided to cash in. Using my cash codes I spent my money and bought a bunch of rubs and spices at no cost to me.

Well I did receive the products I ordered but I was chastised for doing what I did. Apparently I was expected to buy items with money out of my pocket and not just use the cash codes. A big deal of it was made on the forum (my name was never mentioned but I knew who they were talking about) and I figured that was the end of it. Nope - I was locked out. My account was frozen and I was never able to login again - this was a few years ago. No skin off my backside. It's their loss.

So here I am at LTBBQ and happy!  :D  :D  8)  8)
I remember that story well :(. Pretty petty stuff
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: tlg4942 on May 12, 2016, 03:42:40 PM
  Well, I drug my feet migrating to this forum from the old CB forum.  I knew so many folks at the old one that I really enjoyed conversing with and just hated to leave (let go).  But as it literally died and  many of the regular members moving on to here  I came on over and have enjoyed every minute. 
And,  So far I have managed to stay out of trouble. 
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Pam Gould on May 12, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
  Well, I drug my feet migrating to this forum from the old CB forum.  I knew so many folks at the old one that I really enjoyed conversing with and just hated to leave (let go).  But as it literally died and  many of the regular members moving on to here  I came on over and have enjoyed every minute. 
And,  So far I have managed to stay out of trouble.
Terry..I'm glad your here.. and am in no trouble yet either..it's early..lol ..just sayin  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Jaxon on May 12, 2016, 04:37:01 PM
Though I have been contacted several times about many of my controversial posts and cooks, I have survived the threat of being banned and silenced.

None of the above is true, but I wish I could have seen the moderator's face when he read it.

Besides the defunct CB site, I was involved in only one other four.  It is for users of a certain kamado cooker.  Most of the posts were weeks old and mine hardly ever got a reply, even when asking for advice.

I'm  happy here.

Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: LostArrow on May 12, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Never been kicked off a forum yet  ::)
I know my slightly irrelevant sense of humor is tolerated her so I'm staying!
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: hikerman on May 12, 2016, 05:10:49 PM
We ALL have wrinkles of one type or another. And it is refreshing to be kidded about the  aforementioned wrinkles here by other members and not be forced into being terribly similar. We have a wonderful blend of kind hearts here and I am not just lucky to be here but also proud to be a member!
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: drholly on May 12, 2016, 05:16:48 PM
We ALL have wrinkles of one type or another. And it is refreshing to be kidded about the  aforementioned wrinkles here by other members and not be forced into being terribly similar. We have a wonderful blend of kind hearts here and I am not just lucky to be here but also proud to be a member!

I couldn't have said it better, Gene - especially the kind hearts.
X2!
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: hikerman on May 12, 2016, 05:20:25 PM
We ALL have wrinkles of one type or another. And it is refreshing to be kidded about the  aforementioned wrinkles here by other members and not be forced into being terribly similar. We have a wonderful blend of kind hearts here and I am not just lucky to be here but also proud to be a member!

I couldn't have said it better, Gene - especially the kind hearts.
X2!

Thanks David! This reminds me of the United Way's slogan.....
"Thanks to you, it's working for ALL of us!"
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Big Dawg on May 12, 2016, 05:27:27 PM
another problem with that particular kettle based forum was they had "clicks"   a guy would post a simple hamburger cook and he would get pages of praise while another member would post a super involved cook and get a reply or two. I hardly got any replies on my posts, but I wasn't there for the glory and the glamour. In fact in retrospect, I don't even know why I hung around there as long as I did..........

I don't know if I know the one that you're talking about, but, I do visit one that sounds very similar.

Never been kicked off a forum yet  ::)
I know my slightly irrelevant sense of humor is tolerated her so I'm staying!

Unlike LA, I have been "banned."  (Shades of Jerry Seinfeld!)  But only because I was on the wrong side of the divorce when the Big Mahoffs of a Cigar forum I spent a lot of time on split up.

Like LA, so far you guys have been willing to put up with my sarcasm, which, by the way, I have been really trying to keep somewhat under control.





BD
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: hikerman on May 12, 2016, 05:32:03 PM
another problem with that particular kettle based forum was they had "clicks"   a guy would post a simple hamburger cook and he would get pages of praise while another member would post a super involved cook and get a reply or two. I hardly got any replies on my posts, but I wasn't there for the glory and the glamour. In fact in retrospect, I don't even know why I hung around there as long as I did..........

I don't know if I know the one that you're talking about, but, I do visit one that sounds very similar.

Never been kicked off a forum yet  ::)
I know my slightly irrelevant sense of humor is tolerated her so I'm staying!

Unlike LA, I have been "banned."  (Shades of Jerry Seinfeld!)  But only because I was on the wrong side of the divorce when the Big Mahoffs of a Cigar forum I spent a lot of time on split up.

Like LA, so far you guys have been willing to put up with my sarcasm, which, by the way, I have been really trying to keep somewhat under control.





BD

Hey Bill....let 'er rip buddy! :D
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: RAD on May 12, 2016, 06:59:26 PM
This and the CB site are really the only two sites I've posted. When CB was going down TMB sent me an invite to join here, thanks Tommy.  :)  So, most of my experiences have been great.  8)
Now, I will admit my hummer takes a little to get used to and I made a couple of jokes in my early days that weren't received as funny. I needed to be disciplined, “Spanked”.  ??? ???
Nothing serious and food related but I really needed to use more emotions  ??? ;) :) 8) to get my funnies across. But the bosses here did not ban, yell, or publicly embarrass me. Instead, they sent me a couple of PM’s and guided me in the right directions. Thanks Tee and Smoke.  :)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Ka Honu on May 12, 2016, 07:57:10 PM
Like tlg, RAD, TMB, and many others I migrated from the CB forum when it was going down for the third time. I still check in to Bradley now and again but it, too, isn't what it used to be. This is the only place I can hang out where I can actually learn some stuff without getting banned for teasing members (including "the Big Aggie") for typing things like...

I know my slightly irrelevant sense of humor...

LA - Drinking while typing often makes your posts irrelevant. Having friends like me, Bo, Joey, Squirrel, and others gives you an irreverent sense of humor which may or may not be relevant. Lucky you to be revered (and occasionally reversed) for having it both ways!

... my hummer [sic] takes a little to get used to...I needed to be disciplined, “Spanked”...

RAD - I'm not sure any of us needed to know any of that. Jus' sayin'.

How can you not love this place?
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: tomcrete1 on May 12, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
I know that I'm still a nuebe on this site but early on there was confusion as to my intentions with the videos and  my you tube thing , anyway after some heated e mails we came to an understanding.          ( Thank you Tee! ) I've enjoyed and learned so much from each and every one of you especially Tommy (TMB ) .  Look forward to the future and actually meeting some of you along way.   :)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Tailgating is my game on May 12, 2016, 10:09:28 PM
I am a mod on two NY Jet sites & have had a few problem people over the last year or two but have never treated anyone in a disrespectful way. But I was on an official Jet site & I have seen things like Mike saw on his other site. People are leaving & only the chosen ones are still there lol. It is really sad.

As far as here I was invited by Tommy. It is great here but I hate sending him the $500.00 every month. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: teesquare on May 13, 2016, 12:40:35 AM
Folks - I know that we try to say it often in many different ways - but, THANK YOU. And -  just to remind you:
YOU - members are the heroes. We can build the best playground in the world - but if the kids don't like the it - and don't use it - of what use is it? ;D
So - this playground  Lets Talk BBQ  is truly driven by the quality of the members. And you folks that have been here the longest were recruited by someone that knew you were a good neighbor, and not an egocentric, or argumentative. And...yeah - you can cook too! :D But do not be confused about the priorities. A good cook with a bad attitude is not a good neighbor on a forum ;).
Several of you have cited issues of various nature from other forums. Frankly - I had a similar experience on the pellet cooker forum that muebe and Smoker Pete referred to. And it was completely senseless. About that time - the Char-Broil forum was in a death spiral....loaded with spam ads for ladies underwear, and cheap priced "little blue pills" ::) 8).....Well - we just felt that there had to be a better way to have a discussion forum.
All of the Admins and Moderators here really just want to help. NOT "police" anyone. But we also did not want to abandon a sense of responsibility to the community in keeping you safe from spam, hackers and data miners. We knew there could be a balance of managing - without being "overseers". In reality - all of the Admins and Moderators just volunteer to help do the needed maintenance so the place stay neat and tidy. That's all. We don't keep "watch lists". we don't have names anywhere that we tally up how many times he/she did or said this or that. We DON'T. We do not even have the ability to read your private messages to one another. Why? Because the are PRIVATE. Respect begins with how a place is managed. If we treat folks as equals - and with dignity, it usually comes back to us the same way. You notice that we allow threads to "wander". You will not get a Moderator or Admin warning anyone to "stay on topic"...Why? Because you came here for conversation. Conversations will wander - if they are genuine 2 way communication among friends... Just human nature ;). We are all here to relax and have fun. THAT is a rule! :D
There are few rules here, and the one that counts the most - is The Golden Rule. We can all have different methods that we prefer - but we can disagree respectfully. After all - if we all agreed on how to do everything - it would get really boring around here- and fast. ;D
I hold closely the philosophy that respect is based on 2 things:
1. One's ability to understand that even a first time grill owner - who just struck his first match to light charcoal - may bring an observation that we have overlooked - or forgotten the importance of due "experience" clouding our memory - of what it is like to be "new" at outdoor cooking. The basics that we all learned early on are STILL the largest contributor to our successes or failures - yet they are always the things we often overlook in a forensic manner when trying to figure out what we may have done wrong. The new member - will still hold those basics in high regard - and help us all in this respect - *IF* he/she has the confidence in knowing that when he makes a post - he will not be talked down to - or ridiculed.
2.No matter who we may be as accomplished individuals in our respective fields - or as cooks - we represent no more worth to he who made us - than anyone else. Again - that Golden Rule in this case means that the greatest contribution that we can make to this place....is legitimate friendship - and respectful sharing.

And - for me - seeing this thread not become one where attitudes were soured due to prior negative experiences elsewhere. Rather a celebratory expression of what all of you have accomplished in the creation of a community which is reflective of the quality ingredients you all represent in the making of - not just a "forum"....but a community of friends.
THAT is what YOU have accomplished, and what we each contribute to - with each post, a little everyday.
It is my heartfelt pleasure and with genuine affection for you all that I proudly tell folks about LTBBQ.  Just as an address on a street is merely a marker - LTBBQ is just a location that would not be anything worthwhile without all of YOU. YOU make it fun and easy to keep this place going and growing. So - if you have an opportunity to help as add new members - tell someone that you think would make a good neighbor. They will stand on their own merits and you will never be held accountable for them. But generally - good folks know other good folks. That is still how we gain most of our members.
T
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Ka Honu on May 13, 2016, 12:55:57 AM
Too much to read, tee. Is there an abbreviated version for those of us who don't like to read that much?
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Smokin Don on May 13, 2016, 01:07:19 AM
Too much to read, tee. Is there an abbreviated version for those of us who don't like to read that much?
When you get Tee going there is no stopping!!! :) Don
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: IR2dum on May 13, 2016, 02:58:00 AM
I, like many others, gravitated here after the CB forum died off and I couldn't be happier. I have never joined any other forums although I do read the posts on the forums that were referenced earlier and I can relate to the problems that were talked about. Not so with this forum. This is a forum of good friends, good conversations, and friendly advice. I have gained many lifelong friends. As an example, on a recent work trip to the east coast a couple of weeks ago, I was very lucky to be able to visit with seven forum members....The Turtle and Lost Arrow in New Orleans...Jaxon, Dee, Albert, and Mike in Byron, GA at Jaxon's Backyard Jack Ranch...lunch with Dee in Augusta...dinner with Terry way down in Alabama. I am very dissappointed that I wasn't able to schedule the Ohio Gathering this year because I will miss seeing all my Ohio friends. I promise that I will try to get up there for next year's event. I guess that what I am trying to say is that I feel that you are a family that has taken me in and accepted me and I thank you and I appreciate every post that is made on this forum. Thank you, Tee, for having the vision for this forum and executing it flawlessly. Thank you for letting me be member #14.

Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Hub on May 13, 2016, 09:28:00 AM
For a couple of years I gave several hours a day to moderating a pellet cooking forum.  Sometimes things would get hot and hairy and I'd spend even more time with PM's and carefully worded messages as to why something was edited, deleted or moved.  It was a lot of work but still fun and I came to know and enjoy a lot of fine people who posted there.  We had a couple of members who had especially bad ego and/or alcohol problems and some days I had to "clean up after them" and keep the peace.  I really enjoyed it.

The central problem to most of the conflict on the forum was unclear rules and unfair enforcement by another moderator.  I offered to, and did, rewrite the rules to be clearer and support fairness but my work was never acknowledged.  Many forums are strictly non-commercial but this will always raise gray areas if you don't make the rules specific and then don't enforce them evenly.  So . . .

One day, after having carefully protect the rights of a new member who had made a minor error concerning a commercial reference and getting everyone happy and not offended, the other moderator bombs in and kicks him out.  Several other times after I'd applied fairness and care to handling a "situation" the other mod overrode my work.  So . . .

I still read and occasionally post on that forum and I still have some great friends there.  It isn't growing like it used to.  It still doesn't have any clarification of the rules but the iron-fisted moderation has put an end to much of the entertainment, too.  Caring has a cost.

Hub 
Title: Why I am here...
Post by: Pappymn on May 13, 2016, 10:15:17 AM
Can somebody send me the Cliff's notes on Tee's speech?
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smokeasaurus on May 13, 2016, 01:23:57 PM
The Smoke is dayum proud to be here and able to call all of you my friends  :)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: TMB on May 13, 2016, 01:44:22 PM
Most of y'all know why I left one forum  >:(   The guy that was to be in charge was not and things got out of hand and the owner could care a less if the site closed down  :o :o  they didn't feel it help them sales (which by the way it did)  I was very glad and proud to see my friends follow suit.   Wasn't long before it shut down for good. 

On another site I watched two admins beat down a guys question, calling him a useless member if that the type of questions he was going to ask.  I was there 3 weeks and when I read that I resigned and even PM'd the two admins + gave them my email if they wanted to talk about it
I never heard a word, go figure

So with that said I'm HOME!!   Thanks to Tee for seeing the future back a few years ago  ;)     So I joined and I'm #2   ???    um that didn't come out right  :D :D :D :D 

Like Smoke , I'm happy to call y'all friends and extended family!! ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: HighOnSmoke on May 13, 2016, 03:42:51 PM
Okay I am here and this is HOME now! I came over from 2 forums. One was the forum that Tee and Hub mentioned and I just couldn't stand the "putdowns" from some older members to new people. I was new using a pellet grill and needed some friendly guidance and suggestions. What I got was use the "search" button and you will find it. It was like a damn bother to help new people. So I did a Google search for pellet forums and LTBBQ popped up. I am really glad I don't have the patience to listen to "smart a**es" and found this place.  The other forum I belong to (still a non posting member) is one that is "dear" to Smoke. I left that one voluntarily since I was expanding my cooker selections and on that board, unless it is their brand, you are basically an outcast. Yep, an outcast with over 8000 posts.  ;) I understand it is their board and their rules, so I am happy I am not there anymore. I have said it before and I continue to say it to anyone that will listen: LTBBQ is the BEST cooking forum on the internet and I am proud to call you my friends and family.

Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: teesquare on May 13, 2016, 07:12:56 PM
Can somebody send me the Cliff's notes on Tee's speech?

the post you are referring to was only a ramble before the preamble...then there is the document itself....and some amendments.....and.... ::) :o 8) ;D


But - challenge yourself to read it...Who knows - you might even feel proud of yourself Pappy. I don't think I used any $5 words :D :D :D
Title: Why I am here...
Post by: Pappymn on May 13, 2016, 07:26:12 PM
Can somebody send me the Cliff's notes on Tee's speech?

the post you are referring to was only a ramble before the preamble...then there is the document itself....and some amendments.....and.... ::) :o 8) ;D


But - challenge yourself to read it...Who knows - you might even feel proud of yourself Pappy. I don't think I used any $5 words :D :D :D
Well you did say ladies underwear, which got me curious :)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Ka Honu on May 13, 2016, 07:58:41 PM
... I don't think I used any $5 words

But, as usual, you used a whole lotta 10¢ words when a few penny thoughts would have done the job.
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: hikerman on May 13, 2016, 08:58:10 PM
  ;) :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: tailfeathers on May 13, 2016, 11:45:39 PM
I also got myself tangled up a little bit on another forum and got a pm from another member to check out this one. Sure glad I did!!!!!
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Ericd3043 on May 15, 2016, 01:25:21 AM
To be honest, I found this forum when I really started to getting into smoking.  I graduated in the fall with my degree in Supply Chain Management.  At 42, that took a lot of time and I needed something to fill the time I had spent studying.

That said, I had no experience on other forums but like the help I get here in trying to develop my skills.  My wife has always liked my grilling (came from the experience cooking with the Scouts).  This just gives me some more practice and new ideas.  I appreciate the help I have received as well as the positive feedback when I get it "right"
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smokeasaurus on May 15, 2016, 10:41:04 AM
To be honest, I found this forum when I really started to getting into smoking.  I graduated in the fall with my degree in Supply Chain Management.  At 42, that took a lot of time and I needed something to fill the time I had spent studying.

That said, I had no experience on other forums but like the help I get here in trying to develop my skills.  My wife has always liked my grilling (came from the experience cooking with the Scouts).  This just gives me some more practice and new ideas.  I appreciate the help I have received as well as the positive feedback when I get it "right"

Glad you found us first  :)   some of the other forums will have you headed for the hills....some ugly stuff goes on  :(
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: teesquare on May 15, 2016, 10:49:10 AM
... I don't think I used any $5 words

But, as usual, you used a whole lotta 10¢ words when a few penny thoughts would have done the job.

Such sage advice from a hard shelled "sage grazer"....... :D :D :D...Like that - Turtle? ;D 8) ;)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Ericd3043 on May 18, 2016, 02:09:53 PM
To be honest, I found this forum when I really started to getting into smoking.  I graduated in the fall with my degree in Supply Chain Management.  At 42, that took a lot of time and I needed something to fill the time I had spent studying.

That said, I had no experience on other forums but like the help I get here in trying to develop my skills.  My wife has always liked my grilling (came from the experience cooking with the Scouts).  This just gives me some more practice and new ideas.  I appreciate the help I have received as well as the positive feedback when I get it "right"

Glad you found us first  :)   some of the other forums will have you headed for the hills....some ugly stuff goes on  :(

I gathered as much from reading things here.  I have dealt with trolls, etc on other boards for other topics - so much so that I just dropped off the boards completely for years.  Of course, I did not have time with going back to school, but still - I just lost interest in the hobby because of it.
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: fishingbouchman on May 18, 2016, 04:57:40 PM
The people. 
Can cook anyway you want.
The people.
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: RG on May 18, 2016, 07:33:34 PM
I guess I will add my tale of woe :)

I, not so long ago, was a moderator then an admin on another forum. I thought that I had done a good job of managing the place but 2 of the more veteran members who were also mods thought that I answered to them and it really set them off that I was made an admin. I guess you can chalk it up to jealousy. It's funny because it's not a paid position, it's not something you can put on a resume, it's just volunteer work. There is absolutely no reason to get jealous about it. The PMs behind the scenes had them lobbying for my removal. There were folks in my camp and theirs. Some wanted them banned, I just wanted them to act like adults. We all got a little heated but it was between the 3 of us via PMs. When they took private conversations and started posting them on the forum, it wore on me to the point that I decided to delete my own account and leave. Both of them had been stripped of their mod status and one of them was banned. I have been gone from there 5 months and have no intention of returning, I have a new home and I am glad to be rid of the drama! I hope that I never see that here, I can't take it again, lol. As for the 2 of them, I am still angry at what they did but in the end I wish them both the best in life. It's just a BBQ forum, no need to carry permanent hatred for someone over BBQ :P

There are some here that know of this, one from their side and one from my side. I am asking the both of you (you know who you are) to not chime in here about this. The past is the past, let's leave it there shall we? I'd much rather be friendly to all than to start more drama ;)
Title: Why I am here...
Post by: Pappymn on May 18, 2016, 07:49:40 PM
Only drama around here is provided by Tee
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: RG on May 18, 2016, 07:51:07 PM
Only drama around here is provided by Tee

Pfftt! Tell me about it! :)  ::)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: teesquare on May 18, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Only drama around here is provided by Tee

Pfftt! Tell me about it! :)  ::)

Carefull R.G...you DO NOT want your dues to be the "Gold Club" bracket with Pappy's.... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: RG on May 18, 2016, 08:58:28 PM
Only drama around here is provided by Tee

Pfftt! Tell me about it! :)  ::)

Carefull R.G...you DO NOT want your dues to be the "Gold Club" bracket with Pappy's.... :D :D :D

Sir! Yes Sir! 8)
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Roget on May 26, 2016, 10:49:46 AM
Sports forums are the worst!!!
I have been a member of a certain sports forum for many years. When I first joined I seldom posted. I just "hung around". When I started posting I was berated because I didn't know as much as many of the other members. Actually told that I shouldn't post because I didn't know what I was talking about. One poster replied to one of my posts by referring to me as Nancy. Others piled on. I no longer post on that forum. It just isn't worth the grief. I do still visit and read because I care about the team and the program.

I was also on another grilling forum for a while. After some health issues during which I was not predisposed to spend time on the computer, I tried to find the forum only to find the site no longer existed. This forum seems to be very friendly. (much like a smoking forum I am also a member of) Unfortunately, on many of  the forums there is an inner circle which a new member can never hope to become a part of.
Also on many forums, replies primarily consist of pats on the back, rather than real conversation. I hope any contribution I might be able to make will elicit more than just "atta boys". (although I don't mind being told I did a good job, or that you like what you see). 
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smokeasaurus on May 26, 2016, 11:42:18 AM
I agree about the sports forums  ???    Heck, even the team pages on Facebook can get quite nasty  :(
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: Tailgating is my game on May 26, 2016, 12:48:20 PM
Sports forums are the worst!!!
I have been a member of a certain sports forum for many years. When I first joined I seldom posted. I just "hung around". When I started posting I was berated because I didn't know as much as many of the other members. Actually told that I shouldn't post because I didn't know what I was talking about. One poster replied to one of my posts by referring to me as Nancy. Others piled on. I no longer post on that forum. It just isn't worth the grief. I do still visit and read because I care about the team and the program.

I was also on another grilling forum for a while. After some health issues during which I was not predisposed to spend time on the computer, I tried to find the forum only to find the site no longer existed. This forum seems to be very friendly. (much like a smoking forum I am also a member of) Unfortunately, on many of  the forums there is an inner circle which a new member can never hope to become a part of.
Also on many forums, replies primarily consist of pats on the back, rather than real conversation. I hope any contribution I might be able to make will elicit more than just "atta boys". (although I don't mind being told I did a good job, or that you like what you see).


There was a time at one of the gatherings that a member was upset because his food was not ready on time & we caught it on video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDEPwENavsw


Besides that we all get along.......Even Tommy when he found out they shipped his new cook house to me by mistake....I told him I would invite him up & he was good with it.
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: smokeasaurus on May 26, 2016, 01:52:26 PM
The booze does flow freely at the gatherings I hear  :D :D
Title: Re: Why I am here...
Post by: 4cornersmoker on May 27, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
I'm also on a certain kettle site. And because I post pictures of my Hasty Bake, Good One, rotten Egg & PBC amongst my Weber pictures I'm not well received by many on the site.  But a few friends will comment on my post.  So I hang in there. I've got admit that I like to pull some chains on a few of them.
High on Smoke was on that site & invited me to this great site where ALL grills & smokers are treated with due respect. I don't say or post much on this site, but I do look every day. Looking & learning. The kettle site is having a Smoke Day on Saturday I will be lighting every smoker & posting all my cooks.
Could be my last hurrah, you never know. Just kidding.....they love me over there   LOL.
Anyway I love this site because all makes & models are accepted here. Outstanding & keep up the good work people.
By the way can't way for Smokeasuraus next review, how about the M1grill?  a Hasty Bake on steroids. Would love to see this one in action.
Keep grilling & keep chilling,
4cournersmoker