Let's Talk BBQ
General => General Discussion & Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: GusRobin on January 03, 2014, 12:54:44 AM
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The mighty Tide has been rolled out.
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:( I was cheering for you guys. Hate to see an SEC team lose to a big 12 team. Especially after Oklahoma's coach talked trash about the SEC being over rated.
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They say anything north of Dallas (in TX) is Oklahoma, so I am a happy Sooner today.
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Another example of why moving to a playoff system for top tier teams is the right thing to do. "Anointing" the top two teams for a championship bowl certainly doesn't infallibly reward the best team with the championship. After seeing the Sooner's performance last night..I'd love to see them continue on and play for the championship.
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I would relish the opportunity to speak directly with the crew of talking headsont he pre-game show….They had this all figured out as a blowout, with Alabama just embarrassing OK. :D :D :D :D
Th BCS should have just been named "BS"…….Teams like Ohio State, and Oregon can certainly give you reasons for that. Even the "strength of schedule" argument that BCS has always used as it's shield against logic - falls apart once you understand that each teams ranking is part fact - but also, part conjecture. I don't remember anyone ever wining a game, or a title based on "conjecture"….
Just ask those suits on the pre-game show last nite about the value of their conjecture - now that the game has been played…. ;) :D :D :D
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It is a tough row to hoe being a Sooner here in the land of the Tar Heels, and in the region of the SEC and ACC. The Sooners looked awesome last night and Bama couldn't sustain enough oomph. The sports press often has a tendency toward myopia and they get their just rewards on occasion when they read their own press releases and then believe them ::)
The thing I like most about college football is the entertaining inconsistency. Despite the NCAA's bewildering and often impossible rules, good teams do get built. And, on any given day, somebody can create a stunning surprise. As a Sooner fan of six decades, I've been on both ends of that deal ;D
Hub
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Just ask those suits on the pre-game show last nite about the value of their conjecture - now that the game has been played…. ;) :D :D :D
Tim, don't blame those "suits" on the pre-game show....they are just trying to fill the time slot with noise.
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Just ask those suits on the pre-game show last nite about the value of their conjecture - now that the game has been played…. ;) :D :D :D
Tim, don't blame those "suits" on the pre-game show....they are just trying to fill the time slot with noise.
How long do y'all think Dee and Ken will be in mourning?
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Just ask those suits on the pre-game show last nite about the value of their conjecture - now that the game has been played…. ;) :D :D :D
Tim, don't blame those "suits" on the pre-game show....they are just trying to fill the time slot with noise.
How long do y'all think Dee and Ken will be in mourning?
Until August 30, 2014.
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All of our teams have crazy drunk fans, but this one is pretty priceless...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1910031-alabama-mom-jumps-over-crowd-to-fight-oklahoma-fan
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This was too good not to share.
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That girl was nuts! Hate to see folks act like that :(
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All of our teams have crazy drunk fans, but this one is pretty priceless...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1910031-alabama-mom-jumps-over-crowd-to-fight-oklahoma-fan
Are you sure she was not a Duke basketball fan??? :D :D :D :D
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Don't know what was said to start the ruckus. Must have been something stupid on the part of the Sooner fan...such as some derogatory comment about the Bear or Nick.
Our defense has been absent the last two games. For all his greatness Yelton has had two critical fumbles in the last two games...both of which were freak occurances.
Looking back at Saban's comments on the pre-game interview he talked a lot about attitude and desire. That leads me to think that maybe he didn't think the team's attitude may not have been what he wanted. AJ took a lot of the blame on himself for the turnovers and rightfully so.
One big bright spot is that 6'3'' 235# freshman number 27, Howard, running back. 100 yards on eight carries and a 60+ yard TD reception. His speed is incredible for a big man and he's still got some growing to do. I would not be surprised if he doesn't become the greatest running back in Bama history. His high school stats are out of this world something like 300-400 yards of rushing in some games. The things he has to learn at the college level requires work and he appears to have made a lot of head way the last two games. He did a great job of pass blocking last night.
We played only one complete game this year and may have been overrated. It'such a bummer when you go 12 and 2 and have a down year.
It's going to be great again next year. I think eight teams in the playoffs would be better than four but everything has to start somewhere.
Dee
Roll Tide!
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According to the news the woman was reacting to derogatory remarks others were making. They were going back and forth until they began threatening her 16 year old son and telling him he wasn't a man unless he came down and stood up for his mother. Then she went berserk on them. It was still was the wrong thing to do though
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In context….it was a football game. And - I make no apologies for my love of the game. But….some folks just take leave of their senses at a ball game. Regardless of what the taunts are - people seem to forget that they are supposed to be adults. Especially if they have kids at the game.
Bad behavior on someone else's part never excuses our returning that same - or in this case worse -behavior.
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In context….it was a football game. And - I make no apologies for my love of the game. But….some folks just take leave of their senses at a ball game. Regardless of what the taunts are - people seem to forget that they are supposed to be adults. Especially if they have kids at the game.
Bad behavior on someone else's part never excuses our returning that same - or in this case worse -behavior.
I agree. Some folks act like it's a European soccer game.
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Did they mention that alcohol may have been involved? ??? 8)
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According to the news the woman was reacting to derogatory remarks others were making. They were going back and forth until they began threatening her 16 year old son and telling him he wasn't a man unless he came down and stood up for his mother. Then she went berserk on them. It was still was the wrong thing to do though
One thing I learned early.... YOU NEVER poke a Momma Grizzly by messing with her cubs!!!! Why Buma fans would be provoking a 16 yr old to defend his Momma is perplexing; especially when Momma Bear can obviously defend herself.
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It is a tough row to hoe being a Sooner here in the land of the Tar Heels, and in the region of the SEC and ACC. The Sooners looked awesome last night and Bama couldn't sustain enough oomph. The sports press often has a tendency toward myopia and they get their just rewards on occasion when they read their own press releases and then believe them ::)
The thing I like most about college football is the entertaining inconsistency. Despite the NCAA's bewildering and often impossible rules, good teams do get built. And, on any given day, somebody can create a stunning surprise. As a Sooner fan of six decades, I've been on both ends of that deal ;D
Hub
Hub- Absolutely, you got my Sooner Fandom beat by about 20 yrs...but Ive been a Sooner since about 10 yrs old. A lot because I hate Kansas U and Kansas St. It is like be a Chiefs fan... yes, I guess I am a sadomasochist (sp chk?)!! But, as I told a guy that day; The Tide should win the game...but then again....the Stoops Sooners seem to play more to their competition than they should. That they would probably beat Bama by 10.... and yet lose to a Boyze State!!!
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It is easy to try and draw too fine a point here….because many here are fans of either one of these two teams involved. What we saw was not about Alabama - vs - OU…..
Examine the larger picture - please: It is great to love your team, and the game itself. But one does not have to hate the opposing team - or their fans just because they are not on your side.
If you truly love the game - and your team - you owe both of them honor and respect. When I see fans acting out - as Gus mentioned, like European soccer fans - it brings down the level respect anyone can have for themselves, or the sport. The sport becomes nothing more than an excuse for a drunken brawl and emotional outbursts comparable to that of an unruly 2 yr. old…..It just gets ugly and embarrassing for anyone with a sense of dignity.
Let's hope that we don't find excuses for clearly unacceptable behavior, and that these kinds of incidents will be rare.
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I am an avid college football fan and an Alabama fan first and foremost, but at the end of the day it is just a game. I am still happy with an 11 and 2 season. I remember the lean years when we did not even have a winning season and I was still a fan then. I love the game of college football and especially the way they play it down South. I can't remember who wrote it but way back when Bear Bryant was still coach someone wrote an article in SI trying to explain why football was so popular down South and why fans were so fanatic about their teams. He said it was a tribal/clannish thing. The South is predominately Celtic or American Indian in heritage and they are clannish people. You identify your self with a clan and stick with it your entire life. My people are all Celtic and I understand the clan mentality.
Another thing is that I am an avid soccer fan, there I have admitted it. I coached and refereed soccer from the 5 year old ages up through high school teams and was a selector for the state Olympic Development team. I am probably one of the few who can watch 90 minutes of soccer and still be happy with a 1-0 score. It is a beautiful game and I can get more worked up over a soccer game than I can a good football game, but it is still just a game.
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Well said Ken! When we lose civility at public events - it is ia clear indication of the loss of of our civilization, in an incremental fashion. Bit by bit, we find it "tolerable" until - that behavior become the norm, or expected.
Speaking of soccer…any idea why it has never become really successful here in the U.S. as it is in the rest of the world? ( I have a theory….)
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Well said Ken! When we lose civility at public events - it is ia clear indication of the loss of of our civilization, in an incremental fashion. Bit by bit, we find it "tolerable" until - that behavior become the norm, or expected.
Speaking of soccer…any idea why it has never become really successful here in the U.S. as it is in the rest of the world? ( I have a theory….)
Not sure Tim. Down South it is still considered a slow sport and not exciting and it still considered by many to be a "sissy" sport. IMHO opinion soccer players are the best athletes there are and especially the best conditioned.
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Look it's Bama football. It ain't life and death------IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT!!!! ;) :) Dee
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Well said Ken! When we lose civility at public events - it is ia clear indication of the loss of of our civilization, in an incremental fashion. Bit by bit, we find it "tolerable" until - that behavior become the norm, or expected.
Speaking of soccer…any idea why it has never become really successful here in the U.S. as it is in the rest of the world? ( I have a theory….)
I think one of the biggest reasons soccer has not been as successful in the US as elsewhere has nothing to do with the game itself. The U.S. is geographically much more isolated than the countries that have huge soccer rivalries, and to be blunt be already have enough city vs. city rivalries covered with baseball and American football. Football is a great example of what the U.S. likes in a game nowadays. It is an excuse to get drunk and hang out with friends, and it also plays to the inherent laziness of Americans and stays indoors (other parts of the world more frequently take their events away from home and even outdoors). It is why the Superbowl is so successful I think. It includes spouses who may not even care about the game itself. I am a baseball fanatic, but I hate watching it with anyone else. It is not an event or get together for me the way that football is for many folks.
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Nice try….but not a correct one Chris….next guess?
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You want non-stop action. Try hockey eh. ;D
I enjoy a good European soccer match where you have a chance of being killed if a fight breaks out. Reminds me of NASCAR when a car loses a wheel ???
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You want non-stop action. Try hockey eh. ;D
I enjoy a good European soccer match where you have a chance of being killed if a fight breaks out. Reminds me of NASCAR when a car loses a wheel ???
Nope….not it…one last guess?
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The world according to Gus.
The people in the US haven't figured out how to handicap soccer as well as football and basketball. While I don't want to minimize the dedication of fans, gambling has greatly increased the popularity of those sports. While betting on baseball is also popular, not as much as the other two. Baseball popularity has declined, but has had a historical head start with a large fan base. Baseball has been popular because at one time it was about the only major league sport. It was something that was a better fit for the radio when there wasn't TV.
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Gus - you are on the right track…..
But - for any sport to make it big in America, it has to generate a LOT of statistics. Why? Because that is what you have to talk about if you are a hard-core fan. And - hard-core fans create the momentum for more fans and the cult of personality. WE are statistics nuts in this country. Numbers, numbers numbers.
From those stats - one can build a library of information from which talk shows can be created and the talking heads can suss out the comparisons in individuals, teams, leagues - you name it. From those stats - computers can generate odds, and bookies can take your money…..
So - stats have created industries that support the given sports that generate them. Advertising costs and seat prices can be tied to the likelihood that a given team or player will set a new record at the next game.
Statistics are EVERYTHING in the US sporting arena.
Soccer just does not "excite" the stat nuts. "1-nil" just is not much to talk about over a pint at the bar. Yardage of offense? Defense? You get the picture. ;) ;D