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Offline rwalters

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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2018, 10:02:55 AM »
For ME I grind my own using either a combo of chuck and short rib or just chuck. I prefer thinner patties in order to keep the crust to inside meat ratio where I like it and double burgers taste even better. NOTHING is to be mixed into the meat as I am making a burger and not meatloaf. Seasonings go from a simple S&P to SPOG to Oakridge BBQ's santa Maria(you can see a pattern there). Cooking is on a flattop griddle until the crust is right.

On the burger... well I'm from NC so the first version is "all the way" or "all the way no chili" (all the way= chili, slaw, onions and mustard). My second version is green leafy lettuce, IN SEASON tomato, onion and mayo. Third version is mushroom and swiss with bacon jam.

You'll notice that I'm a weirdo in that while I LOVE bacon and cheese they do not grace my burgers with the exceptions of the mushroom swiss burger or if a type of burger requires a certain cheese.
You make a great point.  Our definition of the "perfect" burger patty, much like the weather, can easily (and often) change.  Moods and tastes often dictate our version of "perfect"... and as we all know, that can change by the minute ;)
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2018, 02:52:20 PM »
The problem with me saying the PERFECT burger is I like burgers thick one day then the next I might like a smashed thing crusty one !

Kinda like pizza, thick Chicago style is great but by the same token I love thin crispy crust NY style then you can add Detroit into the mix  ;) ;)

Same here.

As of late  have really been  enjoying  thin crusty smashburgers, but sometimes will do  thick burgers  sous vide  and other times   really enjoy grinding my own beef (50/50 chuck and sirloin) and cooking in cast iron.
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2018, 03:03:00 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!

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How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2018, 03:22:53 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2018, 03:37:06 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
YES lots I hope!   I bought a cast iron plate years ago for camping, did eggs, bacon, sausage you know the normal stuff ;)  But after all the dang talk of smash burgers I got to get it out and use if for a griddle ;) ;)     It's gets hotter then H&## so should make some great burgers + I get to cook outside!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D

Only cost 14 bucks and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a flat grill       https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/outdoor-gourmet-14-in-preseasoned-round-griddle#repChildCatid=27890

Yet another reason to buy an SRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2018, 04:25:24 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
YES lots I hope!   I bought a cast iron plate years ago for camping, did eggs, bacon, sausage you know the normal stuff ;)  But after all the dang talk of smash burgers I got to get it out and use if for a griddle ;) ;)     It's gets hotter then H&## so should make some great burgers + I get to cook outside!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D

Only cost 14 bucks and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a flat grill       https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/outdoor-gourmet-14-in-preseasoned-round-griddle#repChildCatid=27890

Yet another reason to buy an SRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still on the fence... need a bit more pushing ;)
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2018, 04:34:37 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
YES lots I hope!   I bought a cast iron plate years ago for camping, did eggs, bacon, sausage you know the normal stuff ;)  But after all the dang talk of smash burgers I got to get it out and use if for a griddle ;) ;)     It's gets hotter then H&## so should make some great burgers + I get to cook outside!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D

Only cost 14 bucks and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a flat grill       https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/outdoor-gourmet-14-in-preseasoned-round-griddle#repChildCatid=27890

Yet another reason to buy an SRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still on the fence... need a bit more pushing ;)
How much more??  I got lots more pictures :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2018, 04:46:13 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
YES lots I hope!   I bought a cast iron plate years ago for camping, did eggs, bacon, sausage you know the normal stuff ;)  But after all the dang talk of smash burgers I got to get it out and use if for a griddle ;) ;)     It's gets hotter then H&## so should make some great burgers + I get to cook outside!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D

Only cost 14 bucks and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a flat grill       https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/outdoor-gourmet-14-in-preseasoned-round-griddle#repChildCatid=27890

Yet another reason to buy an SRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Still on the fence... need a bit more pushing ;)
How much more??  I got lots more pictures :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Won't know until I am actually falling from the fence... lol ;)
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2018, 04:57:38 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
YES lots I hope!   I bought a cast iron plate years ago for camping, did eggs, bacon, sausage you know the normal stuff ;)  But after all the dang talk of smash burgers I got to get it out and use if for a griddle ;) ;)     It's gets hotter then H&## so should make some great burgers + I get to cook outside!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D

Only cost 14 bucks and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a flat grill       https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/outdoor-gourmet-14-in-preseasoned-round-griddle#repChildCatid=27890

Yet another reason to buy an SRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have two of those I bought when worked at Academy. They work really well on top of my TBE and also on my Camp Chef stove and in my Weber. Can't beat cooking on cast itom.
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2018, 08:21:32 PM »
All this talk of smash burgers makes me want on.  Ill do some on my SRG this weekend with a cast iron plate I have!
With pics, yeah?!?! :)
YES lots I hope!   I bought a cast iron plate years ago for camping, did eggs, bacon, sausage you know the normal stuff ;)  But after all the dang talk of smash burgers I got to get it out and use if for a griddle ;) ;)     It's gets hotter then H&## so should make some great burgers + I get to cook outside!!!!!!!  :D :D :D :D

Only cost 14 bucks and a heck of a lot cheaper than buying a flat grill       https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/outdoor-gourmet-14-in-preseasoned-round-griddle#repChildCatid=27890

Yet another reason to buy an SRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go ahead & rub it in Tommy I want an SRG so bad ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2018, 08:33:31 PM »
I feel like I'm late to the party!  :D

My absolute favorite burger meat is ground sirloin, after that either ground round or ground chuck.  In any case 80/20 minimum fat, 70/30 is better.


I like to cook them one of two ways:

1) If I'm making patties:  I like them large and don't pack them too tightly.  Season with S, P & G only.  Cook them indirect and hit them with a sear right at the end.  I like a little crust, but not too much.


2) The other way I love to cook burgers:  Load up a sheet pan full of the burger meat, top with cheese, bacon, onions, whatever you like, and just pop them in the grill/smoker and cook them low & slow!

This is especially great for cookouts, parties, etc.  because you can make them ahead of time. When you put them on the grill there's no flipping, no babysitting, etc! 

And DANG are they good and incredibly juicy this way!







This is also the best way I know to make sliders!





Great... now I want burgers for supper and I already have chicken going on the MAK!  :P



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How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2018, 09:31:43 PM »
I feel like I'm late to the party!  :D

My absolute favorite burger meat is ground sirloin, after that either ground round or ground chuck.  In any case 80/20 minimum fat, 70/30 is better.


I like to cook them one of two ways:

1) If I'm making patties:  I like them large and don't pack them too tightly.  Season with S, P & G only.  Cook them indirect and hit them with a sear right at the end.  I like a little crust, but not too much.


2) The other way I love to cook burgers:  Load up a sheet pan full of the burger meat, top with cheese, bacon, onions, whatever you like, and just pop them in the grill/smoker and cook them low & slow!

This is especially great for cookouts, parties, etc.  because you can make them ahead of time. When you put them on the grill there's no flipping, no babysitting, etc! 

And DANG are they good and incredibly juicy this way!







This is also the best way I know to make sliders!





Great... now I want burgers for supper and I already have chicken going on the MAK!  :P
Dang, Cliff... I’ve seen those sheet pan burgers before but have never made them myself. That has got to change!!!! How many lbs of beef would you say it takes to fill the pan in that pan? What temp do you cook at, and about how long do you plan on the cook taking?  Is the beef not just swimming in its own fat when done?
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #26 on: April 20, 2018, 04:45:47 AM »
90/10 for me........90% drinking beer & 10% eating burgers.......  hey I am a Jet fan you need something for the pain

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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2018, 07:47:51 AM »
2) The other way I love to cook burgers:  Load up a sheet pan full of the burger meat, top with cheese, bacon, onions, whatever you like, and just pop them in the grill/smoker and cook them low & slow!
And DANG are they good and incredibly juicy this way!

This is also the best way I know to make sliders!



 :P

Man those sliders look delicious.
I've been wanting smashburgers on the flat top, but I may just have to try that first.
Thanx for the tip. :thumbup:
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Re: How do YOU prepare the ultimate burger patty?
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2018, 11:15:55 AM »
Dang, Cliff... I’ve seen those sheet pan burgers before but have never made them myself. That has got to change!!!! How many lbs of beef would you say it takes to fill the pan in that pan?

You can fill them up to make them as thick or thin as you like.   As a guide, a normal sized sheet will yield 12 patties, so:

>  3 lbs of meat will give you 1/4 lb patties (pre-cooked weight).   < a good size for cookouts with other meats being served
>  4 lbs will give you 1/3 lb patties.  < a good size if this is your main protein (especially with toppings).



What temp do you cook at, and about how long do you plan on the cook taking?

Anywhere from 225° - 300° seems to work well.  The lower & slower you go the more smoke they can absorb. It depends on what if anything else is being cooked with them, and/or what toppings you're using. They need to cook as well.   

Overall, though I find low & slow 225° - 250° is best, especially if you have bacon on top.



Is the beef not just swimming in its own fat when done?

Oh you better believe they're swimming in their own fat & juices.  :thumbup: ;)  HOWEVER the burgers, themselves, are NOT any more/less greasy than cooking them any other way. They do stay pretty juicy this way! 

If there's an excess amount of fat & juices, then a turkey baster works well to get some of them out before trying to take them out of the grill.


One more note:  The trade off with this method is you give up a crust for flavor, but the cheese, as well as the burger has a chance to pick up some smoke and the flavor is just absolutely phenomenal!

After doing this once, I guarantee it will, at the very least, find a place in your normal repertoire! 



 
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