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Offline sparky

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testing different smokers
« Reply #-1 on: August 16, 2013, 02:27:14 PM »
Mak 1 Star and WSM.

Rib Testing.

everyone coming up to 275° or so.  burning oak pellets and 1 oak chuck for the other guy.







okie dokie.  were at temp.  lets get to smoking. 

for this very important test i wanted to use a favorite rib rub of mine.  FSB to the rescue.



1/2 rack on mak.



1/2 rack on WSM.



2 hours later.  time for some FL.



color from both are great.  it's all about the color dude.  we love the colors (i know, flashback to the 70's).......





my favorite part.



1 hour later.  coming out of FL.



oh these look good.  back on until done.





both have good color to them.



cut up and ready for tasting.  mak ribs on left, WSM on right.

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ok, blind taste test.  my wife, son and neighbor came over for the testing.  they all picked the WSM ribs.  all of them.  will be running more testing w chicken, butt and one more set of ribs for both.  it doesn't look good the the pellet smokers. 



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Re: testing different smokers
« on: August 16, 2013, 02:32:10 PM »
Interesting test and great pics. Both look really good! Did your judges say why they liked the ones they picked?
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 02:33:28 PM »
Interesting test and great pics. Both look really good! Did your judges say why they liked the ones they picked?

they liked the smokiness and texture better. 
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 02:47:30 PM »
Cooking over charcoal just gives us a different taste than cooking over wood pellets. I like 'em both ;).
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 02:50:06 PM »
Great pic series; that food looks delicious

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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 02:57:37 PM »
Great post.. I see some Mak 1 Stars for sale soon...
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 03:08:00 PM »
Great post.. I see some Mak 1 Stars for sale soon...

sooner than you think.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 07:00:01 PM »
Nice looking 1/2 racks. I'm sure the MAK rack was also great. Sometimes I do prefer charcoal flava over the pellet smoked meats myself.


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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 07:00:26 PM »
Interesting test and great pics. Both look really good! Did your judges say why they liked the ones they picked?

they liked the smokiness and texture better.

Was it one slab cut in half.  I prefer the skinny part of the baby backs. Texture is better.   Do you think that played in the decision making.    NExt time swap the 1/2?
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 07:17:34 PM »
Was it one slab cut in half.  I prefer the skinny part of the baby backs. Texture is better.   Do you think that played in the decision making.    NExt time swap the 1/2?

yes it was.  me too and I agree w/ the texture thing you said too.  maybe.  I will take your suggestion and try it.  I bought another rack today.  will cook on sunday.  got to got to a wedding tomorrow.  open bar....... :P :P :P
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 07:33:04 PM »
Love open bars.  Not the wedding so much. 
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 07:41:07 PM »
Sparky1, thank you for doing this test. I think that what you have pointed out is very interesting and very worthwhile for those evaluating one smoker versus another.

I have done several tests on ribs just like you. My tests were on the MES 30, the Yoder Pellet Smoker, and now the Yoder Cheyenne Wood Smoker. The pellet smoker produces, again, this is only the opinion of my wife and I, a better result than the electric smoker. After much experimentation, with cooking ribs on the wood smoker, I think that I have the process to be successful. The Ribs on the wood smoker taste better because they have more smoke/wood flavor than the pellet smoker. Now all of this is being said in the context of my own personal experience. I may try the Weber Kettle in this process but I do not think that I can inject much of the wood flavor as one could with amount of charcoal used as the fuel source. I do not own the MES anymore.

I enjoy my pellet smoker very much for the ability to set and forget the cooking process because the fuel is delivered automatically to the combustion chamber. This is very beneficial for a long cooking process such as a pork butt or a brisket. When college football and college basketball season is underway, I will enjoy this benefit. The wood smoker is "fun" because of the process to manage air flow, fuel and food results. Right now, I have no experience with the Weber. Soon.

Right now you are collecting data which will turn into information. I suggest that you be patient before you decide to sell you Mak. There may be times when you will find that the Mak is the best tool for the cook you want to do especially the longer ones.

Sitting here, the results looked identical. Your family prefers the "taste" of the charcoal. You certainly make great ribs and you are the one that I have tried to copy you in quality.

Good comparison.

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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 07:57:47 PM »
Great job buddy......enjoy the open bar......nothing better
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 08:04:26 PM »
I think that a AMZNPS filled with some of Milt's fine pellets, lit, and placed in the MAK while cooking the ribs will make a big difference IMHO.

The way I see it is the charcoal is the fuel in the WSM and the wood chunk adds smoke flavor.

The MAK is combusting the wood pellets at 275F temp so the smoke is not as strong. That is the source of fuel at that temp.

Add a AMZNPS to the MAK with Milt's Beer Hop Blend and redo the test.

Also split the racks so each cooker has half of each rack because as you know no two racks are exactly the same ;)

And finally even though both cookers are at 275F the ribs in the MAK will cook faster due to convection heating. A temp or time adjustment for cooking on the MAK should be made IMHO.

Otherwise a fine test Sparky ;D
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Re: testing different smokers
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 08:08:36 PM »
Great job buddy......enjoy the open bar......nothing better

and, my wife said she will drive the truck home.   :D ;D :)
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