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Other Cooking Equipment => Other cooking Eqipment => SOUS VIDE COOKING => Topic started by: CaptJack on September 08, 2014, 04:21:48 PM

Title: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 08, 2014, 04:21:48 PM
brisket flat in the the SousVide

i cut a 14# packer in half
i trimmed as much of the fat cap off as possible
i didn't weigh it but i'm guessing it's still around 5#
it's 3" thick
the chart says that 1"= 45'min. 2"= 2h45m.
by extrapolation i'm guessing 3"= 9hrs?
but since it's the flat of a select packer i'm thinking 12+hrs?
at 135°
opinions?

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/CaptJack50/BBQ/DorkfoodSVchart_777_zpscf1da389.jpg)

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/CaptJack50/BBQ/SV_BrisketFlat_001_zps8c03eb47.jpg)

the plan is
i'll sear it for surface finish at the end of the bath
let it sit in the fridge over night
run it through the slicer - thin, the next day
roast beef sandwich meat
to 135° SV internal
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: sliding_billy on September 08, 2014, 04:31:35 PM
No opinion, but looking forward to it.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: muebe on September 08, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
I would SV it like your going to. Save all the juices from the bag. Then sear it, slice it, then re-bag the sliced meat into a ziplock bag with the juices and refrigerate. That meat will pull back in all those juices as it cools. Then it should be nice and tender!

Should make for some great sammies!
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on September 09, 2014, 12:25:48 AM
I agree it's muebe.  I did as he recommend, saved the juices, re-bagged the sliced meat in the juices, turned out to be very tender and juicy.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide - my 1st sous vide
Post by: Pam Gould on September 09, 2014, 07:00:56 AM
Questions..I got new sealer thingi for my food saver and Anova is in the house,.I'm ready to cook something..anything, but not sure of the timing, then resting in the frig thing. I have some chicken thighs, about 4 of them and wanna try it..any suggestions on how I do this? Do I sear before or after? If I sear after, will I have crispier skin?  I have 2.35 lbs. of thighs. The timing scares me..I know dark meat cooks longer than the breasts. help please. This will be my 1st sous vide try. Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 09, 2014, 11:52:57 AM
Pam
the only advantage I see in searing before you go into the SV bath is to have some "maillard effect" on the surface for additional flavor.
I'm not sure that chicken skin (fat) is a good idea for SV?
if you do the thighs in the SV, I would sear them in your BigEasy/SRG after they come out of the bath

I know that after my two attempts at SV short ribs, I really don't like the flavor of the un-rendered beef fat that comes out of the SV bath.
I do like what the SV bath does to a low/no fat, lean piece of meat

Jack
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Pam Gould on September 09, 2014, 12:03:19 PM
Pam
the only advantage I see in searing before you go into the SV bath is to have some "maillard effect" on the surface for additional flavor.
I'm not sure that chicken skin (fat) is a good idea for SV?
if you do the thighs in the SV, I would sear them in your BigEasy/SRG after they come out of the bath

I know that after my two attempts at SV short ribs, I really don't like the flavor of the un-rendered beef fat that comes out of the SV bath.
I do like what the SV bath does to a low/no fat, lean piece of meat

Jack
Thanks Jack..that is what I was thinking..do it after in the BEESR. I'm not sure about the chicken skin/fat either. This is my 1st go with the Anova. Just have to try and see what happens.
thanks again.  You should really consider the gathering this year..I wanna meet you, you have been so helpful. Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 09, 2014, 12:09:34 PM
Pam
if I was doing the thighs I'd take off the skin and de-bone them
do them as just the lean thigh muscle
(I smell some fresh minced garlic going into the bag ;)
and I wouldn't sear them at the end either
I'd slice them and serve the slices over something? salad, rice, pasta, etc..
they would be the most tender this way
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: muebe on September 09, 2014, 01:11:59 PM
Do what Jack says but don't add garlic to the bag!

Garlic does not react well to the SV temps and long cooking times.

I would go 146F for three to four hours. Then give them a finish sear.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 09, 2014, 01:17:44 PM
Do what Jack says but don't add garlic to the bag!

Garlic does not react well to the SV temps and long cooking times.?

I would go 146F for three to four hours. Then give them a finish sear.

why?
there's always - already roasted garlic - minced?
I keep a jar of them in olive oil in the fridge
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: muebe on September 09, 2014, 01:28:19 PM
Do what Jack says but don't add garlic to the bag!

Garlic does not react well to the SV temps and long cooking times.?

I would go 146F for three to four hours. Then give them a finish sear.

why?
there's always - already roasted garlic - minced?
I keep a jar of them in olive oil in the fridge

Already roasted is ok to use but fresh will give off a weird flavor. I believe it is the same with fresh onions.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Pam Gould on September 09, 2014, 01:37:58 PM
Do what Jack says but don't add garlic to the bag!

Garlic does not react well to the SV temps and long cooking times.?

I would go 146F for three to four hours. Then give them a finish sear.

why?
there's always - already roasted garlic - minced?
I keep a jar of them in olive oil in the fridge

Already roasted is ok to use but fresh will give off a weird flavor. I believe it is the same with fresh onions.
Thanks Muebe..good to know..but wonder why. Could it be the vacuum sealing?  Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: muebe on September 09, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
Do what Jack says but don't add garlic to the bag!

Garlic does not react well to the SV temps and long cooking times.?

I would go 146F for three to four hours. Then give them a finish sear.

why?
there's always - already roasted garlic - minced?
I keep a jar of them in olive oil in the fridge

Already roasted is ok to use but fresh will give off a weird flavor. I believe it is the same with fresh onions.
Thanks Muebe..good to know..but wonder why. Could it be the vacuum sealing?  Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.

Don't know why but from what I have read you should not use fresh garlic. Has to do with the lower temps and prolonged cooking. Might be a chemical change.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 09, 2014, 01:58:25 PM
Already roasted is ok to use but fresh will give off a weird flavor. I believe it is the same with fresh onions.

inquiring minds want to know ;)
I see "testing" to come
if I'm going to do SV I want to know how I can use garlic and onions in the SV bath ;)
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Pam Gould on September 09, 2014, 02:00:22 PM
Already roasted is ok to use but fresh will give off a weird flavor. I believe it is the same with fresh onions.

inquiring minds want to know ;)
I see "testing" to come
if I'm going to do SV I want to know how I can use garlic and onions in the SV bath ;)
watching..Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on September 09, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
Already roasted is ok to use but fresh will give off a weird flavor. I believe it is the same with fresh onions.

inquiring minds want to know ;)
I see "testing" to come
if I'm going to do SV I want to know how I can use garlic and onions in the SV bath ;)
watching..Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.

Watching this one too.  ;)
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 09, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
at the finish
135° for 18 hours (tender)
seared in the SRG for 10'min
rested in the fridge for 12hrs
sliced and put in bags with the Au jus
the flavor "ain't" bbq

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/CaptJack50/BBQ/SV_BrisketFlat_002_zps948a013b.jpg)

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/CaptJack50/BBQ/SV_BrisketFlat_003_zps71b8ef92.jpg)

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o283/CaptJack50/BBQ/SV_BrisketFlat_004_zps01d642e4.jpg)

Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: smoker pete on September 09, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
Looks fantastic!!
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on September 09, 2014, 07:39:26 PM
Looks great, moist and tender.  ;)
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: jjjonz on September 09, 2014, 08:43:37 PM
It does look delicious there Jack....I see you say it didn't taste like bbq....how was the taste ?
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: muebe on September 09, 2014, 10:29:41 PM
That will be great for sandwiches Jack!
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: pz on September 10, 2014, 01:25:31 AM
Those thin slices look absolutely delicious
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Pam Gould on September 10, 2014, 03:48:13 AM
Look how moist..doesn't matter if it doesn't taste like bbq..I want some. I can see tacos and all kind of things there in that bag..Nice cook.  Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: HighOnSmoke on September 10, 2014, 06:24:02 AM
Fantastic looking brisket Jack!
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: TentHunteR on September 10, 2014, 07:41:03 AM
...the flavor "ain't" bbq

So, are you happy with the flavor the way it is for roast beef sandwiches?
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: Smokerjunky on September 10, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
Looks OUTSTANDING!!!
Title: Re: brisket flat in the the SousVide
Post by: CaptJack on September 10, 2014, 03:00:32 PM
...the flavor "ain't" bbq

So, are you happy with the flavor the way it is for roast beef sandwiches?

I just made the 1st sandwich
I put the slices in a skillet to warm them up
a little salt&pepper
on toasted bread with mayo, that's all
EXCELLENT (http://i50.tinypic.com/20ztyfl.gif)

but it could have been a rump or eye roast instead of a brisket flat ?...
if I'm going to slice it for roast beef sandwich meat i'd rather put it in the smoker for 4 hours....