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Title: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: RG on January 30, 2017, 12:57:33 PM
Let me start by saying that this is NOT my creation but rather a slightly altered version of Jim Lahey's No Knead dough recipe. Jim uses All Purpose flour. While I have used AP, I find that for my needs/tastes using a 50/50 mixture of King Arthur Bread Flour and 00 Caputo works wonders. I also don't do any hand mixing with a spoon and hands like he instructs. I simply throw all the ingredients in a KitchenAid bowl, slap a dough hook on it and go to town. When it comes together and the sides of the bowl are clean and a dough ball is slappin' around in the bowl I oil my hands, take it out and fold it into itself over and over to make a tight skinned ball and plop it into a greased bowl and put plastic wrap over it and let it sit out on the counter for 18+ hours. This is called bulk proofing or proving, whichever you prefer. When it's proofed you then cut it into desired weight dough balls and either use them then or you can freeze them or you can put them in the fridge for a couple of days THEN use them. It's a real forgiving dough and because it uses so little yeast, you don't have to worry about blown dough. It's a silky dough, very nice to work with and the crumb and chew are excellent and it makes a nice cornicione.

Here's what I use
500g flour (250g King Arthur Bread Flour & 250g Caputo 00)
16g of salt (I use Kosher, Jim uses Sea salt)
1g of Active Dry yeast
350g water

So it's just flour salt yeast and water and time! Simple.

Here's his recipe, unaltered (http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/03/jim-laheys-no-knead-pizza-dough-recipe.html)

And yes, slap, slappin', and plop are highly technical culinary terms. Either that or some obese pizza eatin' rice krispies elves!
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: tomcrete1 on January 30, 2017, 02:06:32 PM
Bookmarked! Thanks RG!  :)
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: RG on January 30, 2017, 02:43:36 PM
You're welcome!
Title: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Pappymn on January 30, 2017, 02:55:01 PM
I do one that is similar. If you want to bake, get a good kitchen scale. It's the only time I like the metric system ;)
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Lemonhead78 on February 12, 2019, 04:25:02 AM
I will try this recipe for my first ever pizza. Are the flours you use common in supermarkets or should I order online ?
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: akruckus on February 12, 2019, 06:31:11 AM
I will try this recipe for my first ever pizza. Are the flours you use common in supermarkets or should I order online ?

I find they are pretty common at the store.

I'll add one thing to the mix, Alton Brown uses bread machine flour (I have not tried) because of the higher gluten content then even bread flour apparently.  I'm feeling some pizza with my weekly dinner with my MIL, I'll make this to compare to uuni (ooni) basic dough recipe.
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Lemonhead78 on February 12, 2019, 07:52:06 AM
I will try this recipe for my first ever pizza. Are the flours you use common in supermarkets or should I order online ?

I find they are pretty common at the store.

I'll add one thing to the mix, Alton Brown uses bread machine flour (I have not tried) because of the higher gluten content then even bread flour apparently.  I'm feeling some pizza with my weekly dinner with my MIL, I'll make this to compare to uuni (ooni) basic dough recipe.

Thanks !!!! Please let me know the results. I have to get a pizza steel to cook on so I have a little time
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: CDN Smoker on February 12, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
I do one that is similar. If you want to bake, get a good kitchen scale. It's the only time I like the metric system ;)

"Use the force Luke"


Love pizza going to try this, Thank You for posting.
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: HighOnSmoke on February 12, 2019, 01:25:11 PM
Thanks RG!
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Pam Gould on February 12, 2019, 02:01:59 PM
I will try this recipe for my first ever pizza. Are the flours you use common in supermarkets or should I order online ?

I find they are pretty common at the store.

I'll add one thing to the mix, Alton Brown uses bread machine flour (I have not tried) because of the higher gluten content then even bread flour apparently.  I'm feeling some pizza with my weekly dinner with my MIL, I'll make this to compare to uuni (ooni) basic dough recipe.

Thanks !!!! Please let me know the results. I have to get a pizza steel to cook on so I have a little time
Yes get the metal one..much better than the wood, just sayin..and it fits in my Uuni.   .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Lemonhead78 on February 13, 2019, 03:21:54 PM
Crap. I can’t find the 00 flour .
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Pam Gould on February 13, 2019, 05:12:00 PM
You can find 00 flour online..00 flour is ideal for pizza dough for two reasons: one, it's finely ground, and two, it has a lower gluten content than most flours... the difference is gluten amounts.  It is similar to unbleached all purpose/plain flour, which is a mix of hard and soft wheat, and though while finer, it creates a dough that is silkier and maintains a chewiness when the pasta is cooked. They are interchangable.  Regular AP flour has more gluten than 00 and Bread flour has the most.  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Lemonhead78 on February 13, 2019, 07:43:01 PM
You can find 00 flour online..00 flour is ideal for pizza dough for two reasons: one, it's finely ground, and two, it has a lower gluten content than most flours... the difference is gluten amounts.  It is similar to unbleached all purpose/plain flour, which is a mix of hard and soft wheat, and though while finer, it creates a dough that is silkier and maintains a chewiness when the pasta is cooked. They are interchangable.  Regular AP flour has more gluten than 00 and Bread flour has the most.  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.

Do you think the 00 is worth the $ to order it online ? Or is the unbleached close enough ? Next time I’m in restaurant depot I’ll check out their flours. I see pizza place owners in their so maybe they’ll  have it
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: RG on April 24, 2019, 01:35:51 AM
You can find 00 flour online..00 flour is ideal for pizza dough for two reasons: one, it's finely ground, and two, it has a lower gluten content than most flours... the difference is gluten amounts.  It is similar to unbleached all purpose/plain flour, which is a mix of hard and soft wheat, and though while finer, it creates a dough that is silkier and maintains a chewiness when the pasta is cooked. They are interchangable.  Regular AP flour has more gluten than 00 and Bread flour has the most.  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ.

Do you think the 00 is worth the $ to order it online ? Or is the unbleached close enough ? Next time I’m in restaurant depot I’ll check out their flours. I see pizza place owners in their so maybe they’ll  have it

I see this post has gotten some action since I posted 2 years ago, lol. Just curious if you found any flour at Restaurant Depot? I may head there in the not too distant future. I can't find 00 locally anymore. I actually bought my last batch at Target of all places. Prior to that I just got it from Amazon but Target was FAR cheaper and it was the same exact brand!
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: RG on April 24, 2019, 01:55:11 AM
So....after logging into RD's site, they do have 00 Flour. 25 kgs of it! 55 pounds of flour for $30.00

That's CHEAP per pound but it would go bad before I could put a dent in it, lol. That would make about 250 10"-12" pizzas!
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Jaxon on April 24, 2019, 08:43:34 AM
I finally have a grill that can reach and hold 600* and we're going to cook pizza thereon.
This recipe, being measured in the metric way, stumps me because I can't imagine how much dough it makes.

Gimme an idea of how many 10" pizzas it will make.
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Smokin Papa Steve on April 24, 2019, 09:23:55 AM
I finally have a grill that can reach and hold 600* and we're going to cook pizza thereon.
This recipe, being measured in the metric way, stumps me because I can't imagine how much dough it makes.

Gimme an idea of how many 10" pizzas it will make.

Using metric is so much better when baking.  Anyway see this site for conversions https://www.kingarthurflour.com/learn/ingredient-weight-chart.html   If you are going to make pizza, it is a good idea to invest in a pizza stone which can also be used to bake bread.  The food network has lots of pizza dough non-metric recipes.  For a 10' pizza, most likely an 8 ounce (226 grams) dough would suffice
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Tailgating is my game on April 24, 2019, 10:21:07 AM
So....after logging into RD's site, they do have 00 Flour. 25 kgs of it! 55 pounds of flour for $30.00

That's CHEAP per pound but it would go bad before I could put a dent in it, lol. That would make about 250 10"-12" pizzas!

Well if we all show up........that would about cover our group ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: Roget on April 24, 2019, 12:50:31 PM
Gimme an idea of how many 10" pizzas it will make.

I make mostly 10"-11" pizzas. American style (think Pizza Hut or Papa Johns).
My recipe uses 519.24 grams of flour (18.32 oz.) and makes three 10"-11" pies.
So that is just a bit over 6 oz. per pie. (173 grams).



Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: RG on April 24, 2019, 01:13:48 PM
I usually shoot for about 200 grams per dough ball and I get about a 10-12" pie from it. The recipe I posted makes about 5 pizzas IIRC. It's been a bit since I fired the old Uuni up. I ordered some 00 on Amazon last night while I was up during the middle of the night. I have been having trouble sleeping, I need to take something to make me sleep so I'll quit my late night shopping :)
Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: DWard51 on April 24, 2019, 10:12:01 PM
I have been having trouble sleeping, I need to take something to make me sleep so I'll quit my late night shopping :)

Try Melatonin. I bought some at Sam's Club.  After I retired, I found it was so easy to get sucked into the internet and suddenly it was 3AM.  I was in Sam's one day and figured I would try it.  For me it works.  Just enough....  About $11 a bottle for 250 tablets. You take one tablet and let it dissolve. Nice berry like flavor.    OK - thread hijack over.....

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Title: Re: My new "go to" for pizza dough
Post by: RG on April 25, 2019, 05:28:14 PM
Hijacking is welcomed! I may try that, my wife has some I think. Last night I popped a Benadryl  and it helped. I just usually drag arse the next day when I take those.