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Other Cooking Equipment => Other cooking Eqipment => SOUS VIDE COOKING => Topic started by: pmillen on May 24, 2014, 12:49:34 AM

Title: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: pmillen on May 24, 2014, 12:49:34 AM
"Anyone?  Anyone?"
          Ferris Bueller's Econ. Teacher
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on May 24, 2014, 01:27:44 AM
"Anyone?  Anyone?"
          Ferris Bueller's Econ. Teacher

Haven't tried that, really don't see any reason to SV hamburgers.  :-\
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: spuds on May 24, 2014, 03:40:48 AM
Might be interesting when making a perfectly cooked thick burger.Never heard of it though.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: sliding_billy on May 24, 2014, 08:49:21 AM
Best laugh I have had in a while.  Muebe needs to try this just for fun.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: muebe on May 24, 2014, 09:19:33 AM
Might work for those ground rib-eye burgers that pz made :P

I would think that they would become mush and fall apart then be impossible to finish grill.

Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: pmillen on May 24, 2014, 05:16:15 PM
I was reading that grilled hamburgers are cooked from the outside and rely on heat conduction to cook the middles.  Consequently they tend to be overcooked on tops and bottoms in order to cook the middle properly.  I thought, "Well that's exactly what sous vide is designed to avoid," so I wondered if anyone is doing it.

It may end up as loose meat.  If so I'll make a Maid-Right.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: spuds on May 24, 2014, 10:26:59 PM
If it doesnt work you have the base for chili,there are great recipes for Wendys style chile out there.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: ACW3 on May 25, 2014, 12:56:52 PM
Here is a link to a sous vide beef burger.  Might be worth a try.

http://blog.sousvidesupreme.com/2013/05/sous-vide-bbq-beef-burger/

Art
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: LostArrow on May 25, 2014, 01:08:19 PM
The reason to sous-Vide burgers is that you can cook to lower temps & still be safe.

Federal guidelines suggest the following temperature and time combinations, applicable to sous vide as well, to kill salmonella and E. Coli bacteria in food.
130F for 86.42 minutes
135F for 27.33 minutes
140F for 8.64 minutes
145F for 2.73 minutes
150F for 51.85 seconds
160F for 5.19 seconds
165F for 1.64 seconds

Using traditional cooking techniques it was very hard to heat up the very inside of food to a high enough level to kill the bacteria without overcooking it, and overcooking the outer layers even worse. Sous vide allows you to cook chicken breasts to a perfect 160 degrees for 5 seconds or beef at 130F for 86 minutes and kill all the bacteria without overcooking them
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: pmillen on May 25, 2014, 11:58:15 PM
Here is a link to a sous vide beef burger.

Thanks, Art.  Good advice in that recipe.

LostArrow, thanks for the post.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: spuds on May 26, 2014, 01:27:07 AM
That burger link is to die for. PM,cant wait to see your cook. ;)
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: bbqchef on May 26, 2014, 12:08:11 PM
For me I think sous vide is a lot of time with not much benefit.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: muebe on May 26, 2014, 01:36:07 PM
For me I think sous vide is a lot of time with not much benefit.

So how many Sous Vide cooks have you done to come up with this conclusion?
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: spuds on May 26, 2014, 07:46:52 PM
All I can say is I cant stand it anymore,the Dork is in for my next Amazon order.Had to read 185 reviews to get Mrs excited,and several threads.Finally nailed it with 'yogurt', and 'cheese' was the clincher ;D Heeheee,keep throwing em out til something sticks,LOL!!
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: Las Vegan Cajun on May 30, 2014, 12:42:03 AM
Haven't tried that, really don't see any reason to SV hamburgers.  :-\

I'll have to retract this comment after reading the thread about rare burgers done SV.   ;)
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: muebe on May 30, 2014, 07:29:46 AM
Might work for those ground rib-eye burgers that pz made :P

I would think that they would become mush and fall apart then be impossible to finish grill.

So after attempting this myself I found that they do not become mush and are extremely delicious!

Give it a go Paul you won't be sorry!

I put the patties in frozen at 135F for two hours and let the patties come up to temp with the water.

They were well worth it!

http://www.letstalkbbq.com/index.php?topic=9422.0
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: pmillen on May 31, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
Give it a go Paul you won't be sorry!

Tomorrow (Sunday).

Edit:  Sunday.  Marcia wants hers cooked over charcoal like we always have.  Okay, then.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: pmillen on June 02, 2014, 11:19:47 PM
I'll have to say that the burgers over charcoal were fantastic.  There's something about that charcoal flavor...

Anxiously waiting for my Pit Barrel Cooker.
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: teesquare on June 02, 2014, 11:59:49 PM
Mike...IS it considered "food safe" to cook ground meat Sous Vide - i.e. at temps les than 165F? Can you clarify this for us?
Title: Re: Is Anyone Cooking Hamburgers Sous Vide?
Post by: muebe on June 03, 2014, 01:03:49 AM
Mike...IS it considered "food safe" to cook ground meat Sous Vide - i.e. at temps les than 165F? Can you clarify this for us?

165F is recommended because the bacteria die very quickly when exposed to that temperature(1.64 seconds) So when your grilling a burger you got maybe 15 minutes of cooking. In that short time you need to get the meat up to temp to kill the bacteria.

Bacteria will die at lower temperatures 130F and above but will take longer to die the lower the temperature. So my burgers were at 135F for 2 hours. Bacteria will die after being exposed to 135F for about 30 minutes. My burgers were at that temp for at least 90 minutes so all the bacteria should be dead.

So when done properly it is safe.