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Offline Old Dave

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Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #-1 on: August 23, 2013, 07:31:21 AM »
In the real world and after hundreds of government regulations, you can’t get a good hamburger at any restaurant or any place that is regulated by a local Board of Health. It’s not gonna have any flavor because the fat content is regulated. It’s not gonna be cooked right in that it must be cooked to 165 or above finish degrees. You know... a dried out piece of leather.

Some history and you older folks might appreciate this. Years ago and when McDonalds  first started, they had a plain burger that would just flat melt in your mouth. It was cooked to about 130 degrees and was pink in the middle and was just an outstanding treat. Well, that was axed and what they serve now is trash compared to the older burger. They also flat out had the best French fries in the world. Well, wouldn’t you know..the dogooders found out that they were cooking the fries in beef tallow. OMG, isn’t beef tallow just plain beef lard? As above, this was axed too and the best French fries you will ever taste is gone. Doncha love “Big Brother?”

Next, you can’t purchase good meat...again regulated by the darn government! I think floor scrapings are ok but the real secret to a great burger is the nice white beef fat and lots of it. And of course, it must be cooked to no higher than about 130 degrees for the best results. The over the counter USDA burger is just plain nasty and is so full of crap that it must be cooked to a much higher temp to kill off all the nasties in the meat.

Now, whatsa fellow to do??? MAKE YOUR OWN. Making your own is easy and you can control just what goes into the meat. It is much safer and I feel it is as safe as steak and can be cooked to the lower temps that will produce a much more flavorful burger.



My setup for making my own burger meat.



I started with two nice fresh cut chuck roasts that weighed a total of 7-1/2 pounds. Now for you folks that don’t know, ground chuck roast is about 80% lean and 20% fat. Much, much too lean for good burger. In the white bowl, I have about 5 pounds of good clean white fat cuttings from a whole ribeye loin and a couple of briskets. I would guesstimate this at about 75% fat and 25% lean.

The goal I am shooting for is about 60% lean and 40% fat in my completed burger.



Some might ask why I call it white burger? White is THE flavor in your burger! Just look at that beautiful stuff coming out of my grinder.





That is about 12 pounds of the most flavorful burger you will ever taste.







I bag this burger and then mark it for only my grilled burger meat as I sure don’t want to waste it in chili or some other treat.

I haven’t had a chance to cook any of this batch yet but here is three burgers from an earlier batch of my homemade burger.



These homemade burgers were cooked to about 130 internal degrees and this is the results. You bite into one of these and the juice goes down both sides of your chin and you know you are in Heaven.

Some of the above are my opinions and I don’t expect everyone to agree with me but I do eat some great burgers!

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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« on: August 23, 2013, 07:50:47 AM »
Good info, Dave  :)

I've been turning people onto grinding their own burger and they love it. A couple of them are even grinding their own cat and dog food  ;)
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2013, 08:15:35 AM »
Looks like a nice burger Treat!!

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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2013, 09:00:35 AM »
100% agree Dave... wife and I grind our own from my father in laws buffalo ranch, some of the best burger around!

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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 09:04:37 AM »
Sure looks good  ;D

I remember back when Wendy's burgers were juicy.  Now they're not  :'(

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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 09:08:40 AM »
I am really hungry now!
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 10:17:42 AM »
100% agree Dave... wife and I grind our own from my father in laws buffalo ranch, some of the best burger around!

Now, THAT is cheating Mo!....And I admire the heck out of it ;)....Fresh ground buffalo.....good grief - can it get any better?
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Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 10:29:22 AM »
I am a convert to grinding my own.....and am not going back.

OD, is that a fine grind or a course grind? Do you have a preference. My first batch I did was course.
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 10:37:48 AM »
 :D :D :DSome of the above are my opinions and I don’t expect everyone to agree with me but I do eat some great burgers! :D :D :D



Who - and Why would anyone want to disagree with those results Dave???  Vegetarians??? :D :D :D
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 12:53:22 PM »
I liked it.  send one of those packages to northern cali.  I like a good burger.   :P
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 01:11:34 PM »
Here here and pass the pickles! What you are describing sounds like the burgers I used to find in small cafes and diners as I rode cross country on my bicycle. I always looked for the places that had a flat top and you could see the fat coming out of the burgers as they cooked. One of those with some home made fries and a big glass of bubbly milk (from those huge dispensers with the counter weighted handles...) it was heaven.

More than any other, this post has convinced me to start grinding my own burgers! Thanks, Old Dave.
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 01:53:25 PM »
Oh my that is just burger heaven! I want one of those patties on grilled sourdough and swiss cheese... make that two patties ;)
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 06:43:20 PM »
What can one say?  One does not disagree with the Master...especially when he's right on target. 
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 07:01:32 PM »
Great looking meat Dave. I hate going into a nice pub that has big ole burgers on the menu and then there is a blurb on the menu that they cannot cook a burger less than medium well.
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Re: Old Dave's White Burger
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2013, 07:57:01 PM »
I don't purchase any ground meat of any kind anymore.  For example, ground beef is $3.99/lb in my area for the standard 80/20.

These days I go to my favorite butcher shop and purchase whatever bulk beef they have on sale and use that as the basis for my ground burger.  The last time I was there I purchased New York strip for $2.99/lb.  I also purchase whole pork loin at Costco typically for $2.49/lb, and then grind both at a percentage of 75% beef and 25% pork.  While the grinder is operating, I'll typically throw in fresh sage leaves from the garden, and bacon depending on the amount of fat I want to add.  I'll FoodSaver and freeze anything I'm not planning to use in the next day or so.

I grilled a couple of inch and a half thick New York strip steaks a while ago, and they were better than the $8.99/lb steaks I can purchase at the local supermarket.  It is almost a shame to use steak like that for ground burger, but man, you should taste the grilled burgers - better than any I've tasted yet.

The time before this I used petit sirloin at $2.49/lb.  It doesn't get better than grinding your own burger because it is cheaper, lots better, and you know exactly what went into the meat so you can typically cook it as rare as you like your burgers.