Texas Chili

[Smokin Don]

I thought everyone was just having some fun with the beans, no beans. When it comes down to it If you da cook you can call it anything you want to! Don

[sliding_billy]

I think I am going to make some Cincinnati chili and add chopped brisket point to it. 

[teesquare]

I thought everyone was just having some fun with the beans, no beans. When it comes down to it If you da cook you can call it anything you want to! Don

Exactly!

I think I am going to make some Cincinnati chili and add chopped brisket point to it. 

Sounds like a great experiment to me!


When we become en-trenched in a thinking pattern that mandates "this is the ONLY way" - we really stunt our ability to learn, and to create. Who knows what you guys can come up with that becomes your NEW signature chili?
Until - of course.....you create the next, newer, better thing!

After all - isn't that what makes outdoor cooking, and cooking in general kind of fun? That you can change the recipe, or create a new one?

[bbqchef]

Doesn't Cinn Chili have spaghetti?

[sliding_billy]

Spaghetti noodles with chili over it then loaded with mounds of raw shredded cheddar in a 3-way and if you want it 2-way, 4-way,  or 5-way...

Two-way: chili and spaghetti
Three-way: chili, spaghetti, and cheese
Four-way: chili, spaghetti, cheese, and onions
Five-way: chili, spaghetti, cheese, onions, and beans

P.S. Don't forget the oyster crackers.

[Ka Honu]

tee - You've missed the point (insert Aggie joke here).

The issue has never been what the dish contains. You and others are correct in their comments about experimentation, comparison, blending ideas, etc. The issue is how far can you stray from the original recipe (chiles, meat, and maybe suet & some spices) and still call it chili. I maintain that if your recipe includes beans and/or a significant amount of tomatoes, then it may be an excellent dish but it should be called something other than "chili" to differentiate it from the original. Adjectives are allowed as in the case of Cincinnati Chili, Firehouse Chili, etc.

[drholly]

Here's a link to an interesting "history" of chili. I have no idea about its accuracy or completeness - was just some interesting reading.
http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Chili/ChiliHistory.htm

[Wing Commander]

Here's a link to an interesting "history" of chili. I have no idea about its accuracy or completeness - was just some interesting reading.
http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Chili/ChiliHistory.htm

Wanted to post that one, too.  Here's another one:

http://www.chilicookoff.com/History/History_of_Chili.asp

The International Chili Society defines chili in their rules for chili cookoffs as follows:

Traditional Red Chili is defined by the International Chili Society as any kind of meat or combination of meats,
 cooked with red chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients, with the exception of BEANS and PASTA
 which are strictly forbidden.

 Chili Verde is defined by the International Chili Society as any kind of meat or combination of meats, cooked
 with green chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients, with the exception of BEANS and PASTA which
 are strictly forbidden.

Most of the recipes on their WCCC Recipes site include tomatos and other stuff and they still call it chili. But maybe the ICS is not entitled to the Turtle's opinion....

Fact is that most people worldwide recognize a spicy stew with meat and chiles as chili con carne, wether beans or tomatos are inside or not. So I guess you can stray at least that far from the original recipe (chiles, meat, and maybe suet & some spices) to still call it chili.

[deestafford]

Yeah.  And Pam even calls what Ohio State plays on Saturday afternoons on a striped field "football".  It's apparent that what something is is in the eyes of the beholder...even if the beholder is visually impaired, in politically incorrect language---blind. 
Dee

[bbqchef]

I've judged a few ICS competitions... interesting chili concoctions.

Some good, some not so.

[teesquare]

  Peppers and meat......sound kind of boring if we enforce the definitions in a stringent manner huh?

Chili ( peppers) con ( with) carne (meat)

[hikerman]

As long as the Spanish lesson is ongoing.......dos cervezas, por favor!  Uh ones for you Tee!

[Ka Honu]

... But maybe the ICS is not entitled to the Turtle's opinion...

Well, of course they are. Unfortunately they foolishly choose to ignore it.

[teesquare]

As long as the Spanish lesson is ongoing.......dos cervezas, por favor!  Uh ones for you Tee!

Thanks! I could use it at the ending of this Monday !

Well, of course they are. Unfortunately they foolishly choose to ignore it.
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The over-abundance of humility has such a strong aroma......amazing how much it smells like B.S...........

[Old Hickory]

WC, your chili looks and sounds great, wish I could try a bowl.