I daily check Craigslist for different things and for curosity. Last week I saw a post from a fellow in Columbia, SC with a 40'' MES for $175 posted Jan 5. I watched it and watched it. Today I called him and he still had it. I drove the 60 miles and got it and an extra computer module that they had accidently sent him after he bought it for $150. He's only used it four or five times. He's a Big Green Egg fan and wasn't all that crazy about the MES. It needs some cleaning and seasoning but a new one costs closed to $400 plus tax. I'll clean it up and give to my son in law. So, check the Craigslist in your area and there's no telling what you may find. Dee