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OTHER HOBBIES => OTHER HOBBIES => Topic started by: teesquare on August 24, 2013, 03:19:42 PM
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Very Interesting bit of History ...
"The Start of an Air Force: Israel"
Fascinating and inspiring...
A GOOD STORY NOT KNOWN BY MANY.
The only four (4) airplanes Israel had when the war of independence began were smuggled from CzechRepublic . They were German "Messerschmidt 109". They were assembled overnight in Tel Aviv and were never flight tested.This is a short video about their pilots.
Watch it. You will not be disappointed.
P.S. Contrary to popular perception (by the people who do not know history), the United States ' assistance to Israel during the war of independence was quite different.
Americans were not allowed to join the fight and arms embargo has been established and enforced by the FBI. At the same time Arab armies were very well supplied by the same countries who maintained arms embargo against Israel and of course had great advantage in manpower. Watch this video
http://vimeo.com/54400569
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wow.
This is an incredible, powerful story. I don't care about politics. If you think of the "birth" of our country - I think you have to appreciate the struggle for independence.
But the film itself is so well done. I make videos - I am in awe of the way this was edited and built. It is wonderful.
Thank you for posting this.
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Great story! Real courage! Outf......ning Standing!
Ed
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Thanks for posting this. Very good video.
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I am glad you liked it!
When one considers that there were 4 scrapped together ME-109's...Against far more aircraft in 1948...Then, look at the specifics of the 1967, "6 day war"....it can't be coincidence that one country the size of the state of NJ can do all of this without some supernatural help... ;)
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Well worth the watch. Thanks :)
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I am glad you liked it!
When one considers that there were 4 scrapped together ME-109's...Against far more aircraft in 1948...Then, look at the specifics of the 1967, "6 day war"....it can't be coincidence that one country the size of the state of NJ can do all of this without some supernatural help... ;)
Why should that surprise you? Look what these folks to that small strip of land and the contributions in science, technology and medicine that they keep introducing to world as well as the advanced techniques in farming, and de-salinization and have a standard of living equivalent to Western society. What a contrast to the rest of the nations in that area.
I can assure you that after serving with them TAD, they have a totally different attitude with respect to intelligence gathering, and the conduct of war as opposed to the USA.
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I am glad you liked it!
When one considers that there were 4 scrapped together ME-109's...Against far more aircraft in 1948...Then, look at the specifics of the 1967, "6 day war"....it can't be coincidence that one country the size of the state of NJ can do all of this without some supernatural help... ;)
Why should that surprise you? Look what these folks to that small strip of land and the contributions in science, technology and medicine that they keep introducing to world as well as the advanced techniques in farming, and de-salinization and have a standard of living equivalent to Western society. What a contrast to the rest of the nations in that area.
I can assure you that after serving with them TAD, they have a totally different attitude with respect to intelligence gathering, and the conduct of war as opposed to the USA.
Yes they do....and the USA should take lessons!
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Very moving Tim. I had read a bit about the war to establish the State Of Israel but had not heard of this. Thanks for sharing.
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We in the US have much to be proud of; however, there are a few things of which we should be ashamed and the way Truman treated the Jews when he turned away a ship load of Jews seeking asylum in the US and not supporting the Founding of Israel have to be at the top of the list in my opinion.
I hate to get political but I'm going to make one statement: I wish to God we would quit caring about what other countries think and put the interest of the USA first in everything we do. If it ain't good for us, we shouldn't do it.
Dee
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really good video. thanks for sharing T. 8)
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My pleasure folks!
Why should that surprise you? Look what these folks to that small strip of land and the contributions in science, technology and medicine that they keep introducing to world as well as the advanced techniques in farming, and de-salinization and have a standard of living equivalent to Western society. What a contrast to the rest of the nations in that area.
I can assure you that after serving with them TAD, they have a totally different attitude with respect to intelligence gathering, and the conduct of war as opposed to the USA.
It does not really surprise me Ed - I was speaking tongue-in-cheek. I come from a long line of bagel benders.... ;) ;D
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Very inspiring to say the least. It truly does remind me of our nation's beginnings as well. This is a great example of why we root for the "underdogs" so much of the time. Great clip, thanks for sharing Tim!
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... put the interest of the USA first in everything we do. If it ain't good for us, we shouldn't do it.
A government whose function is to act in the national interest? What a quaint concept!
...they have a totally different attitude with respect to intelligence gathering, and the conduct of war as opposed to the USA.
Hmmm. Might be because their enemies (and most of their friends) can lose as many wars as they have to and keep trying again but the Israelis wouldn't survive even one loss.
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Israel as a people have come back from near extinction to what they are today. Part of the reason they have survived is they were forced to become their best. They are surrounded by enemies and have to stay one step ahead. Surrounded by countries that want to force them into the water. They are a strong people with values. And everyone there has to serve in the military.
No one there standing with their hand out waiting for their government to take care of them. Too busy using their hand to clean up debris from a school that was blown up by a suicide bomber.
Imagine if we had to deal with the weekly carnage they do!
Thanks for the link to that video Tee. I found it very inspiring.
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Glad you liked it Mike! It was a teaser for the full video - I do not know if that has been released yet.
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Israel as a people have come back from near extinction to what they are today. Part of the reason they have survived is they were forced to become their best. They are surrounded by enemies and have to stay one step ahead. Surrounded by countries that want to force them into the water. They are a strong people with values. And everyone there has to serve in the military.
No one there standing with their hand out waiting for their government to take care of them. Too busy using their hand to clean up debris from a school that was blown up by a suicide bomber.
Imagine if we had to deal with the weekly carnage they do!
Thanks for the link to that video Tee. I found it very inspiring.
Great Post Mike.
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Tim,
Thanks for this link. I have been a strong supporter of, not only Israel, but the Jewish people for most of my life.
I was taught from childhood that these people and this land have been a vital part of God's plan for mankind.
In the biblical book of Genesis, chapter 17, beginning in verse one I quote:
1 When Abram was ninety–nine years old, the LORD appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty; walk before me and be blameless.
2 I will confirm my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.”
3 Abram fell facedown, and God said to him,
4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations.
5 No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations.
6 I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you.
7 I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.
8 The whole land of Canaan, where you are now an alien, I will give as an everlasting possession to you and your descendants after you; and I will be their God. ”
This was the beginning point for the Children of Israel - the Jews. How can there be any doubt about God's involvement in their history after seeing how they have been delivered time and again from all the attempts to annihilate them? If God did indeed make a covenant with them - and He did - I would not want to be on the side of those who would come against Israel. Recent history - 1948 is the year I was born - should help us to see that the Covenant is a forever Covenant. The land God promised to give to Abraham and his descendants is in their hands today.
Oh, and one more quote from Genesis 12: 2 “I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you. ”
Disclaimer: If this is offensive to you, please report it to the moderator. It is not my intention to offend anyone, but to add to this post a little more detail and explanation about Tim's comment about the intervention of "the supernatural" in Israel's history.
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And that's a fact Jack.
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I'm still searching to the answer as to why so many Jews in America are anti-Israel. I've read different "explanations" but none of them fit how some people can be so self-hating.
Dee
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I'm still searching to the answer as to why so many Jews in America are anti-Israel. I've read different "explanations" but none of them fit how some people can be so self-hating.
Dee
That is a very deep sociologic discussion Dee.... ;)But keep that on on the list for us to chat about at the FG.