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Offline pmillen

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Smoking Cheese
« Reply #-1 on: January 10, 2015, 12:38:26 PM »
What's your favorite kind of cheese to smoke?

How long do you smoke it?

What's the maximum pit temperature for best results?

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Re: Smoking Cheese
« on: January 10, 2015, 12:49:11 PM »
I really haven't had one that I didn't like.  But my favorites are sharp cheddar,  gouda, muenster, and pepper jack.
2 hours usually is plenty.
I cold smoke using the Amazn tube smoker, but i think you need to be below 90-100F.
Apple is my favorite wood/pellets to use.
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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015, 12:49:34 PM »
I like any type of cheese that has been smoked  ;D  Try to keep the cabinet temp below 80 degrees as the cheese will start to melt down.  I put 2 hrs of smoke but you can put more or less depending on how much smoke you like.  Vac seal them and put them in the fridge for at least 30 days.  If this is your 1st time then I would recommend that you cut a piece off after it comes out of the smoker and taste it.  ;D  That will give you a base line to keep you from getting into the cheese before it has had time to mellow in the fridge.   ;D


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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015, 01:11:39 PM »
I've smoked Gouda, Swiss, Manchego, sharp white cheddar, sharp yellow cheddar, mild cheddar, fontina, mozzarella, and goat cheese.  From all that I have served those cheeses to, the Gouda is top favorite, and the goat cheese a close second.

I'm using an original Bradley four-rack with an additional 4 inverted jerky racks for 8 racks total - usually fill them all because many of our friends and family want some.

In the summer, it is sometimes a challenge to keep the temperature below 80F so I choose the day that is cooler, use ice in the bottom of the smoker or other technique to keep the box cooler.  I'll smoke for 2 hours using a mild wood such as pecan or alder.

In the winter, I'll bring the smoker close to the house to keep it out of the wind and smoke for 3 hours because the box temperature is rather cool - sure, I could raise the box temp controlling with an Auber, but for some reason the longer smoke at cooler temperature makes a product that tastes good straight away.  In the long term, the mellowed smoke flavor is a bit subdued when compared to smoking in the 70F to 80F range.

My advice would be to try different methods based on what others have done, and fine tune it to you and your family's liking

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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2015, 03:50:24 PM »
I would additionally suggest that you remove some at different intervals like 30 minutes, 1 hour and 2 hours so you can see the difference after it sets for a while.  Two-hour cheese straight out of my Bradley tastes like the bottom of an ashtray (to me).  While it’s been a long time since I licked the bottom of an ashtray, I never forgot the taste.   ;)
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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2015, 09:16:19 PM »
I have smoked a lot of cheese over the years. I love the stuff (These days I can't eat it as much as I used to. :'()

What's your favorite kind of cheese to smoke?

Darn near any cheese is good to smoke. 

This batch had 17 different cheeses which included: Sharp cheddar & Amish Yellow Gouda coated in paprika, Vermont White Cheddar, Muenster, Baby Swiss, Aged Swiss with caraway seeds pressed into the surface (YUM - one of my favorites!), Monty Jack, Provolone,  Pepper Jack, and Gorgonzola (any blue cheese is great smoked).


What's the maximum pit temperature for best results?

Stay UNDER 90° or most cheeses will begin to sweat oil.

If it sweats then two things can happen: 1) The oil can absorb & dissolve phenols in the smoke and leave a creosote taste that is just plain nasty. 2) If too much oil is lost, the cheese can become grainy as it rests & ages. In this case, it's best to eat it sooner rather than later as the longer it sits the grainier it will get.

Something a lot of people forget to do is to let the cheese sit out and dry for a good hour so so to form a thin rind BEFORE you smoke it.  This will help control smoke absorption and helps control sweating if the temp pushes above 90°.



How long do you smoke it?

That is the tricky question and is very subjective.  How long you smoke it will depend heavily on two main factors: 1) The Ambient pit temp, and 2) how smoky you like your cheese.

Like PZ mentioned, I prefer smoking cheese in colder weather. The warmer the pit and softer the cheese, the quicker it will absorb smoke!  As a very rough guideline: At temps around 40° - 50° I may let cheese go as long as 4 hours or so.  At 60° - 70° a couple hours, and at 75° - 85° 1 hour of smoke may be plenty.

The best tool you have for checking is YOUR NOSE!!!  Using the above as a basic guideline, take a piece out, take it away from your pit and smell it. Trust me, you'll be able to tell if it has enough smoke to your liking or not.  If it doesn't smell good and smoky to you, then put it back on until it does.

I really like Wingman's advice on taking some off at different intervals to see how you like it.

Keep a record of what the ambient temp & pit temp were and how long you smoked the cheese, and use that as a guide for next time.



Most folks like to let the cheese rest and mellow for weeks or even months, BUT there is no hard set rule on how long.  Do NOT be afraid to sample somewhenever you want and see how the flavor changes.   The smoke will be concentrated on the outside and more campfire like in taste and smell at first.  As it rests and ages, the smoke will penetrate throughout the cheese and become more mellow.


Just remember, unless you let the cheese sweat, or over smoke it, you really can't go wrong.




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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2015, 10:42:42 PM »
i'll smoke anything.   ::)  I let mine sit out like TH before I smoke it.  I use apple wood, pellets, chips.  under 60°.  2 hours for me.  let mellow for awhile and thing bag it up for at least 2 weeks.  month or two better.   8)
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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2015, 11:16:03 PM »
Lots of great info, thanks Cliff and bookmarked ;D
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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2015, 11:20:32 PM »
Ok the crazy - stupid question - is there a minimum temp?
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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 12:53:58 AM »
WOW Cliff that's impressive.  ;)
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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 08:24:52 AM »
Ok the crazy - stupid question - is there a minimum temp?

Not a crazy question at all, David.

As far as I know as long as the pit temp is above freezing, you're fine.  As long as the outside temp is in the 20's or 30's then the A-Maze-N Smoke tube puts off enough heat for this not to be much of an issue.




Before I got an A-Maze-N smoker, for cold smoking I used to just light  3 - 6 charcoal briquettes, wait for them to get ashed over,  and use pellet pouches or a chunk of wood on top.  With this method it's easy to adjust the pit temp by taking away a briquette or two as needed.

Pellet pouches: Punch one tiny hole ONLY in the pouch. Add a new pouch every 30 - 40 minutes or so.


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Re: Smoking Cheese
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2015, 08:27:38 AM »
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