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Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #-1 on: January 02, 2016, 11:17:52 AM »
Purchased a "packer" from Costco with the plan to cook and serve on Super Bowl Sunday.  Just realized I will be out of the country from 1/29 through 2/12, so now I need smoke/cook ahead of the big event such that my wife can deliver the goods to the party. 

Initial thought is to cook weekend before I leave and then vacuum seal the whole cooked brisket and freeze.

Wife can then pull from freezer on the Friday morning of the weekend. Once thawed, place whole brisket in Nesco roaster with some beef broth at about 200 degrees to bring brisket up to temp.

Transport  to party in Neco and then let one of my buddies perform the slicing operation.

Other options and considerations are greatly appreciated!


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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« on: January 02, 2016, 11:35:04 AM »
Do you have a slicer?  If so, you might consider cooling the brisket overnight in the refrigerator and then slicing the next day.  Then vacuum seal.  To reheat, put the vacuum sealed bags in hot water until the meat is warmed up to the temp you are looking for.  Kind of a sous vide approach to reheating.  Just a thought.

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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2016, 11:37:50 AM »
Do you have a slicer?  If so, you might consider cooling the brisket overnight in the refrigerator and then slicing the next day.  Then vacuum seal.  To reheat, put the vacuum sealed bags in hot water until the meat is warmed up to the temp you are looking for.  Kind of a sous vide approach to reheating.  Just a thought.

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I'm with Art on this one.  If you re-heat the whole chunk it is going to induce more cooking and will likely turn it to mush.  Several smaller vac pacs of slices can be reheated easily and their lower mass means faster warming/less "cooking".

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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2016, 11:54:11 AM »
Do you have a slicer?  If so, you might consider cooling the brisket overnight in the refrigerator and then slicing the next day.  Then vacuum seal.  To reheat, put the vacuum sealed bags in hot water until the meat is warmed up to the temp you are looking for.  Kind of a sous vide approach to reheating.  Just a thought.

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I don't have a slicer, but I do have some mad knife skills... Great point regarding "overcooking" too. Thanks
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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2016, 12:18:12 PM »
When I choose to do a brisket for a large crowd and don't want to spend all night before and/or worry bout it getting done, I do MOST of it ahead of time.   I know many purists may not like this, but, here goes

I trim the fat off the brisky, rub it down good, let it sit overnight in the frig, then the next morning, I use a large cast aluminum roaster I inherited from my mom.  It has a TIGHT fitting lid.  I cook it low and slow, about 275 for at least five hours, after adding beef stock to the roaster.  I know, it is really steamed, but with plenty of rub and beef stock, it really doesn't taste that way, IMHO.   Let it cool, pull the meat out, drain off the liquid to cool so the fat can be removed    Keep it refrigerated, or freeze, IF it's going to be a long time.   Oh, IF you want a more smoky taste, be liberal with the liquid smoke, your choice of type, as a base for the rub.     THEN, IF necessary, thaw the meat, or on the day you will serve it, let it warm up, get yourself a slow fire with plenty of smoke and SLOWLY heat it up.    I get it to about 180 or so if it is to be sliced, if shredded, to over 200.   

Easy way to not have to worry bout doing SO much at the last minute.   Try it, you might like it.   I am always getting asked to do briskets for large occasions at church, family gatherings, etc.   

P S, I use Jeff Phillips rub recipe, with a few tweaks of my own.   

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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2016, 12:36:30 PM »
Do you have a slicer?  If so, you might consider cooling the brisket overnight in the refrigerator and then slicing the next day.  Then vacuum seal.  To reheat, put the vacuum sealed bags in hot water until the meat is warmed up to the temp you are looking for.  Kind of a sous vide approach to reheating.  Just a thought.

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I'm with Art on this one.  If you re-heat the whole chunk it is going to induce more cooking and will likely turn it to mush.  Several smaller vac pacs of slices can be reheated easily and their lower mass means faster warming/less "cooking".

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I agree with Art and Hub... And add a couple of things.

I will slice the briskit while warm and lay the slicess in the drippings with added broth to taste, and allow them to soak up a bit more of the juices before I vacuum pack them. You will want to keep your finger on the "seal" button so that you balance drawing the air out of the bag with not sucking the juice out of the meat too.
And specifically, if you have the "freeze and simmer" bags from Food Saver or others, now you can fill a pot with water and simmer NOT boil, the meat back to food safe temperature without overcooking.
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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2016, 10:44:35 AM »
When I choose to do a brisket for a large crowd and don't want to spend all night before and/or worry bout it getting done, I do MOST of it ahead of time.   I know many purists may not like this, but, here goes

I trim the fat off the brisky, rub it down good, let it sit overnight in the frig, then the next morning, I use a large cast aluminum roaster I inherited from my mom.  It has a TIGHT fitting lid.  I cook it low and slow, about 275 for at least five hours, after adding beef stock to the roaster.  I know, it is really steamed, but with plenty of rub and beef stock, it really doesn't taste that way, IMHO.   Let it cool, pull the meat out, drain off the liquid to cool so the fat can be removed    Keep it refrigerated, or freeze, IF it's going to be a long time.   Oh, IF you want a more smoky taste, be liberal with the liquid smoke, your choice of type, as a base for the rub.     THEN, IF necessary, thaw the meat, or on the day you will serve it, let it warm up, get yourself a slow fire with plenty of smoke and SLOWLY heat it up.    I get it to about 180 or so if it is to be sliced, if shredded, to over 200.   

Easy way to not have to worry bout doing SO much at the last minute.   Try it, you might like it.   I am always getting asked to do briskets for large occasions at church, family gatherings, etc.   

P S, I use Jeff Phillips rub recipe, with a few tweaks of my own.

Good idea. When I do pork butt/shoulders, I tend to smoke them for 5-6 hours and then transfer them to my Nesco roaster with a bottle of wine and some herbs for a slow (250) cook overnight. Yes, this is actually braising, but the results are simply outstanding.

What are the thoughts with respect to length of time to hold cooked product in refrigerator? I will have to cook the brisket the weekend of 1/23 for consumption on 2/7; too long to sit in fridge?
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Re: Packer brisket - pre cook
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2016, 11:01:01 AM »
I think that is a bit too long, UNLESS you can vacuum seal it.   Even if you do, I would rather see it frozen, then thawed about 24 hrs for every 5 lbs, (just like turkeys, etc), and get it close to room temp before you do the final grilling.   Have frozen some I did with no bad "side effects."    Just tough to judge the thawing.   I also forgot to mention after I skim the fat off all the juices, I boil it down to thicken and use as sauce for the brisky, OR make a good BBQ sauce out of it, again using Jeff Phillips recipes, with a few tweaks of my own.   It's sweet, but not as sweet as that bottled stuff (I'm trying to be nice here!).

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2016, 11:33:38 AM »
Going to do the cook as the weather is nice. New thread started.


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