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Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #-1 on: October 22, 2013, 04:44:03 AM »
This is a nice treat that takes a few days to prepare but is oh so good and well worth the wait. In my opinion, it is much better than any method I have seen or tried. I have used this recipe and method for several years and love the results.

I start with a couple of choice brisket flats that weigh over 7 pounds each. In this case, these flats total 14-3/4 pounds.



I start by trimming most of the fat off of the meat. I then cut the meat into 3-4 pound chunks for my process.



Next step is to prepare my corning cure or brine, my first rub, and get a ton of garlic ready for the meat. In this case, I cleaned about 6 total garlic bulbs and then put them thru the Suzi.



I inject the meat on the edges and also into the top and bottom. I try to get as much cure into the meat as possible.



I then pack the garlic on the meat and again, you can’t use toooo much!



Next step is to pack a heavy dose of my first rub on the meat.



The corning prep is now finished and the pieces of meat go into large zip-lock bags and then into the fridge for about 4 days to cure. I try to turn the bags over a couple times a day when I am in the fridge.



After the corning period, the meat comes out of the fridge, and then out of the bags. I then wash each piece under running sink water to get all the first rub and garlic off of the meat. Each piece then goes into a pan of water to soak for about one hour.



I then take the meat out of the water and paper towel off and then place on a drying rack for about 30 minutes. What we now have is uncooked corned beef.



Since my plan is to pastrami the beef, I then pack on my second rub which consists of cracked black peppercorns, cracked coriander seed, and some brown sugar. The meat is now ready for the smoker.



While I was at it, I also prepped a couple of chuck roasts which weighed about 5-1/2 pounds for my pulled beef. Since we use pulled beef in many different treats including Philly cheesesteaks, Chicago Italian beefs, beef Manhattans, barbecued beef sandwiches and several Mexican dishes, I just rubbed them with garlic salt and fresh cracked black peppercorns.



I decided to smoke the meat in my Hasty Bake Gourmet cooker and rolled it around to my cooking patio.



I then pulled the charcoal pan and set it up for about a 7 hour fuse burn. I used that great Stubb’s all hardwood no fillers brickettes and then placed some hickory chunks on top to create my wood smoke. The charcoal pan then went back into the cooker and I lit it off with a Weber fire cube.



After the cooker warmed up a little, I placed 4 corned beef briskets and the 2 chuck roasts into the smoker.



The next step was to wrap the chuck roasts when I got the right color and bark and place them back into the cooker. At this time the brisket pieces looked good. I took the chuck roasts to about 210 internal so they would pull just like a pork butt. They sure looked good coming out of the foil.



The chuck roasts pulled and shredded nicely and I sure would be proud to serve this dish to anyone. Wouldn’t you agree?



When the pastramied beef came off the smoker, I tented them for about an hour and got my slicer ready.





I put the pastramied beef thru the slicer and cut it thin for sandwiches. Sure made a nice platter of meat.



We kept about 2 pound of the meat out and I vacuumed packed the balance for the freezer.



Now, for the results of this cook....I toasted 2 pieces of fresh rye bread and then placed 4 pieces of Swiss cheese on one slice. On the other slice, I piled about 3/4 pound of that wonderful pastramied beef and then added about 3 dollops of my homemade horsey sauce to the top of the meat.



I cut the sandwich into two pieces and finished up this treat with a few slices of tomato and a dill pickle spear.





Was one great meal!
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« on: October 22, 2013, 05:19:46 AM »
That all looks fantastic, especially that killer sandwich! Thanks for the details. What IT did you reach on the pastrami?

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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 05:31:14 AM »
That looks outstanding. I've tried to make pastrami from a corned beef but I never get it right. Can you share your cure and rub?
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 05:38:20 AM »
That looks outstanding. I've tried to make pastrami from a corned beef but I never get it right. Can you share your cure and rub?

I was going to ask too. I've been asked to make venison pastrami but I have never done it from scratch.

That sammich looks killer!!
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 06:29:48 AM »
I'll take a pound of pastrami all by itself please.
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 06:30:50 AM »
Fantastic cooking Dave!
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 07:05:40 AM »
Mr PoppyBill,

I usually take my corned and pastraimed beef to an internal of about 180 degrees.


Mr Rad,

My cure for about a 7 pound brisket flat would be the following.

28 oz water
3 TBL Morton’s Tender Quick
2 TBL brown sugar
1 tsp garlic powder

Place in pan and heat up a little and mix it up well but do not boil....cool off in fridge before injecting.

The first rub which is used in the corning process for a 7 pound flat is the following.


1/4 cup Morton’s Tender Quick
2 TBL brown sugar
3 TBL black pepper
2TBL dried parsley
1 TBL dehydrated onion
2 TBL sea salt
1/2 tsp ground cloves
3 TBL pickling spice

Garlic...you can’t use tooooo much....I used about 3 whole bulbs for my meat. I also put the cloves thru my Suzi before using.

The second pastrami rub for a 7 pound flat is the following.

9 TBL black peppercorns (coarsely cracked)
3TBL coriander seeds  (coarsely cracked)
3 TBL brown sugar

Coarsely cracked can be done with a mortar and pestle or maybe a coffee or spice grinder. You just need to break each seed into about 2-4 pieces. You want a crust to form on the meat from this rub so it must not be ground fine.

Mr Sam3,

This recipe and method works great with venison and several other game meats. I helped developed it for these treats over 25 years ago.
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 07:14:00 AM »
Thanks a bunch Dave!!

One question, have you ever used Cure #1 in lieu of the TQ? Would the ratio's be different? (i.e. adding more salt)
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2013, 07:19:06 AM »
Thanks for the detailed instructions Dave!

That Sammie in the last pic looks killer!
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2013, 08:04:39 AM »
It all looks fabulous Dave!  Thanks much for the tutorial!  Gonna have to try this for sure!

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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2013, 08:28:39 AM »
Printing this one off to try. Thanks for the instuctions! Looks awseome!
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2013, 08:35:51 AM »
Sam3,

I have not used Cure #1 in place of the TQ so I couldn't tell you how to do it.

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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2013, 08:47:11 AM »
Sam3,

I have not used Cure #1 in place of the TQ so I couldn't tell you how to do it.

Dave

Thanks Dave, I figured I'd ask anyway.
I have TQ at the house, so I'm good.
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Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2013, 09:08:21 AM »
Just an excellent write up OD, and the results speak for themselves
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Re: Corned and Pastraimed Beef from scratch and...
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2013, 09:13:48 AM »
OK Dave..what is TQ? I have the pink stuff.  Thanks..Definitely gonna make this..in a smaller batch tho..only 2 of us here and hubby doesn't like  (GASP) corned beef.  Thanks Pam  .☆´¯`•.¸¸. ི♥ྀ
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